Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 9A13D380000C4; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 08:56:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TFljF-0000qd-OU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 13:56:09 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TFljF-0000qU-5w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 13:56:09 +0100 Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.97]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TFljC-0003Gw-GL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 13:56:08 +0100 Received: from mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.3]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id BB00038000136; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 08:56:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from White (nrbg-4d072de3.pool.mediaWays.net [77.7.45.227]) by mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 72BAAE0000E3; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 08:56:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42E019CF30CD43129FAFAEE3B1884DE9@White> From: "Markus Vester" To: Cc: References: <7F2208077DA448F78F384AF5B55DECA0@White> <505DD1D8.70901@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <829FB31FADAD4D4682EC509D2416C9F4@AGB> <005d01cd98fe$74bc6030$0501a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <0865DC8F-C867-4D80-8149-D2474B51ED63@gmail.com> <505E55F3.8020502@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <004d01cd9926$26739b50$6401a8c0@JAYDELL> <6ECF47A4215C4DED9E68C3058165ACD5@White> <000001cd996c$4d5fe3e0$e81faba0$@com> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 14:55:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1348404964; bh=bf3rupezXGmKKdrNirBWv9YmYq9+ICd3W1wGWlkHPQA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tBawgtyLWl1QiGhyN1icw3EJm/V40ogHCtzmfmAN+ORAAvZ7Raz/70j5RCWD2KUqz YDUTBVitAVMVfrHYUunuDmAOO0SdZShFCjRafQ3iRAH26p2V9HnL4/J8W/xiEL7aHz DLVBI7y6jsevP3mWIBLQv1bB6e+jIIRAXLF6TRho= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:369140928:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Terry, the setup for wspr-32_rx is identical to -8, and the same fc edits would have to be made. Yes you can split accelerated slow WSPR from incoming normal WSPR. Using audio routing options a (two soundcards and analog cable) or c (VAC) will intrinsically do that. With option b (analog loopback through mixer) it depends on the choice of frequencies. I have now been using fc = 3000 Hz from SndOutpt to WSPR, which is well out of the passband of the SSB RX, so WSPR sees only the converted audio. 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Yes you can split accelerated slow WSPR from incoming = normal WSPR. Using audio routing options a (two soundcards and analog = cable) or c (VAC) will intrinsically do that. With option b (analog = loopback through mixer) it depends on the choice of frequencies. I have = now been using fc =3D 3000 Hz from SndOutpt to WSPR, which is well out = of the passband of the SSB RX, so WSPR sees only the converted audio. If you like I will start a WSPR-32 transmission this afternoon, using = odd half hours and 136160 Hz RF (ie. 4 Hz below Stefan's current = WSPR-8). As my antenna can only operate in fair weather I'm not sure how = long I will be able to transmit tonight. =20 Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Terry GW0EZY=20 Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:17 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: RE: LF: Re: Experimental software for WSPR-8 and -32 Hi Markus =20 Thanks for the opportunity to participate in the experiment! I finally = managed to get it working with spots sent to WSPRnet with your correct = frequency. Unfortunately, I see I am also decoding = =E2=80=9Cnormal=E2=80=9D WSPR because both audio streams are seen by = WSPR. Is it possible to separate? =20 As you have distributed the WSPR32 file I would like to try. Other than = running the bat is there any difference in the set-up? =20 =20 73 Terry =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Markus Vester Sent: 23 September 2012 09:53 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk Subject: Re: LF: Re: Experimental software for WSPR-8 and -32 =20 Thanks very much Jay, Terry and Chris for taking the effort to receive = and report our experiment, and of course to Stefan for suggesting it in = the first place. I think the expected gain in sensitivity is evident, = even though there is no "miracle machine" of course. I have now ended = the WSPR-8 transmission from Nuernberg for today.=20 =20 How would you like to proceed from here? Try WSPR-32 next? Perhaps a = slow WSPR experiment on MF? Or wait for Joe's 8-FSK mode JT8 which might = knock off another dB? =20 BTW I don't use a transverter for MF, but an FE-5680A Rubidium = synthesizer which can be controlled to generate WSPR directly. =20 Best wishes, and have a nice Sunday, Markus (DF6NM) =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CD999B.8A46F8A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Terry,
 
the setup for wspr-32_rx is identical = to -8, and=20 the same fc edits would have to be made. Yes you can split = accelerated slow=20 WSPR from incoming normal WSPR. Using audio routing options a (two = soundcards=20 and analog cable) or c (VAC) will intrinsically do that. With option b = (analog=20 loopback through mixer) it depends on the choice of frequencies. I have = now been=20 using fc =3D 3000 Hz from SndOutpt to WSPR, which is well out of the = passband of=20 the SSB RX, so WSPR sees only the converted audio.
 
If you like I will start = a WSPR-32=20 transmission this afternoon, using odd half hours and 136160 Hz RF (ie. = 4 Hz=20 below Stefan's current WSPR-8). As my antenna can only operate in fair = weather=20 I'm not sure how long I will be able to transmit=20 tonight.  
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:17 AM
Subject: RE: LF: Re: Experimental software for WSPR-8 and=20 -32

Hi=20 Markus

 

Thanks=20 for the opportunity to participate in the experiment! I finally managed = to get=20 it working with spots sent to WSPRnet with your correct frequency.=20 Unfortunately, I see I am also decoding =E2=80=9Cnormal=E2=80=9D WSPR = because both audio streams=20 are seen by WSPR. Is it possible to separate?

 

As=20 you have distributed the WSPR32 file I would like to try. Other than = running the=20 bat is there any difference in the set-up?

 

 

73=20 Terry

 

From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]=20 On Behalf Of Markus Vester
Sent: 23 September 2012=20 09:53
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Cc:=20 rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk
Subject: Re: LF: Re: = Experimental=20 software for WSPR-8 and -32

 

Thanks very = much Jay,=20 Terry and Chris for taking the effort to receive and = report our=20 experiment, and of course to Stefan for suggesting it in the first = place. I=20 think the expected gain in sensitivity is evident, even=20 though there is no "miracle machine" of course. I have = now=20 ended the WSPR-8 transmission from Nuernberg for today.=20

 

How would = you like to=20 proceed from here? Try WSPR-32 next? Perhaps a slow WSPR experiment on = MF?=20 Or wait for Joe's 8-FSK mode JT8 which might knock off another = dB?

 

BTW I don't = use a=20 transverter for MF, but an FE-5680A Rubidium synthesizer = which=20 can be controlled to generate WSPR directly.

 

Best = wishes, and have=20 a nice Sunday,

Markus=20 (DF6NM)

 

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