Return-Path: Received: (qmail 482 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 17:10:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 17:10:40 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLOwc-000COh-5S for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:12:58 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLOwc-000COe-2v for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:12:58 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLOxY-0007i3-35 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:13:56 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLOuC-0003W1-PW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:10:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLOuC-0003Vs-AJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:10:28 +0100 Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.140]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLOu9-00042b-PM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:10:28 +0100 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (144.254.224.150) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Apr 2005 19:10:18 +0200 Received: from cisco.com (mrwint.cisco.com [64.103.71.48]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j3CHAEvm006783 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:10:15 +0200 (MEST) Received: from zen.co.uk (sjc-vpn6-377.cisco.com [10.21.121.121]) by cisco.com (8.8.8-Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15365 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:10:13 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <425C00F4.5040503@zen.co.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:10:12 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <96.253b49f5.2f8d5569@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <96.253b49f5.2f8d5569@aol.com> X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 144.254.224.140 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of zen.co.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS=0.516 Subject: Re: LF: Pseudo-synch QRSS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) WarmSpgs@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 4/12/2005 10:09:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, > mike.dennison@ntlworld.com writes: > > My point is that there has been a lot of discussion about locking to > GPS, or Loran, or some other standard, and it has failed to attract > any practical interest because it is more complex than most amateurs > would like. > > An improvement could be made by simply making sure that the computers > at both ends are within a few seconds of each other (for QRSS 60 or > 120), and ensuring that the FFT software knows roughly when the dot > period starts. > > This is pretty much the point of GPS-BPSK, which only requires time > synchronization with the 1pps marker to achieve performance > improvement. That's not at all complex, but thus far has not seen > wide use. It would be nice to see it applied to QRSS, but will the > "complexity" of inputting a 1pps marker to a computer be too great for > would-be TA explorers? :) For those on broadband, an NTP server will give the required level of accuracy. No hardware needed, just s/w config. Stewart > > John >