Return-Path: Received: (qmail 66116 invoked from network); 12 Apr 2005 12:38:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 2005 12:38:43 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLKh5-000OSO-8X for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:40:40 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1DLKh3-000ORT-PH for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:40:37 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1DLKjG-0000K2-6y for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:42:54 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1DLKep-0002Cf-05 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:38:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1DLKeo-0002CW-Km for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:38:18 +0100 Received: from smtpout19.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.19] helo=mta13-winn.mailhost.ntl.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLKen-0002Wk-8E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:38:18 +0100 Received: from aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta13-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050412123811.WNXS2577.mta13-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:38:11 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([80.4.116.83]) by aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20050412123811.MEMB1280.aamta05-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:38:11 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:38:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <425BCF3E.11650.17B7688@localhost> In-reply-to: <000701c53f43$2e3dd4d0$5f4136d2@mcalevey> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: domain of ntlworld.com designates 212.250.162.19 as permitted sender X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=failed,none Subject: Re: LF: G3AQC in ZL Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) > Congratulations Laurie, it has been a long haul but fascinating to see > some progress. Just another few dB would make a big difference and I > think there is still a lot of scope for improvement in Rx antennas. > Mike ZL4OL Yes, receiving techniques still have a long way to go. In the back of my mind for development (when paid workloads permit) is a narrow beamwidth uni-directional antenna for receive. This should dramatically reduce noise levels over the conventional omni or broadly bi-directional antenna. There is also some work to be done on electrically steering the vertical angle of reception, either to boost low angle DX or to reduce high angle noise. We also need to understand the nature of the ionospheric noise that accompanies DX openings (Is it static or man-made? Is it from the ionosphere itself or just reflected by it? Does it come in at the same angle as the signals?) Another technique waiting to be developed is pseudo-synchronous transmit and receive. By that I mean something between QRSS (which is unsynchronised) and proper synchronisation using complex techniques that have so far failed to become popular. The fact that Markus could gain information from comparing the Tx and Rx timing proves this. With QRSS60 or 120, the synchronisation error could be of the order of a few seconds! There are probably some 6 - 10 decibels out there just waiting to be picked up! Mike, G3XDV ==========