Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11136 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2005 16:29:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore01.plus.net) (192.168.71.1) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Jan 2005 16:29:46 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CmE1h-000GZ7-67 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 16:28:50 +0000 Received: from [192.168.67.1] (helo=ptb-mxcore01.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1CmE1g-000GYy-HW for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 16:28:48 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1CmE2a-000LUz-HP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 16:29:44 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1CmE2O-0004hW-SI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 16:29:32 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1CmE2O-0004hN-Ci for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 16:29:32 +0000 Received: from mailfe09.tele2.se ([212.247.155.1] helo=mailfe09.swip.net) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CmE2J-0001QA-9J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 16:29:32 +0000 X-T2-Posting-ID: 7tTLvD67BptoA2C1rjPWBw== Received: from [213.101.40.156] ([213.101.40.156] verified) by mailfe09.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.7) with ESMTP id 57930902 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:29:19 +0100 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.300 [265.6.8]); Wed, 05 Jan 2005 16:29:43 -0100 Message-ID: <41DC23E6.5010504@tele2.se> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 16:29:10 -0100 From: Johan Bodin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 212.247.155.1 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of tele2.se X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,LOTS_OF_STUFF=0.029,SARE_HEAD_HDR_XT2PID=1.111 Subject: LF: [Fwd: [ndblist] FW: [QRP-L] Sudden Ionospheric Disturbances] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) I found this on another reflector and thought it might be interesting to the LF prop gurus. 73 Johan ####### -------- Ursprungligt meddelande -------- Ämne: [ndblist] FW: [QRP-L] Sudden Ionospheric Disturbances Datum: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 19:48:09 -0800 Från: Steve Ratzlaff Svar till: Beacons Till: Beacons NDB List Information and CLE Pages: http://www.beaconworld.org.uk/info.htm http://www.beaconworld.org.uk/cle59.htm This is pretty interesting, and directly affects LF. The author works at the Very Large Array (see last paragraph). Steve -----Original Message----- From: qrp-l-bounces@mailman.qth.net [mailto:qrp-l-bounces@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of na5n@zianet.com Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 6:49 PM To: qrp-l@mailman.qth.net Subject: [QRP-L] Sudden Ionospheric Disturbances Gang, There have been some episodes over the past week of some very strange Sudden Ionospheric Disturbances, or SIDs. These have not been caused by solar flares or the like, but rather from GRBs ... Gamma Ray Bursts, from very distant objects, like several hundred light years away. The biggest recent event was on December 27, 2004 when a massive gamma ray burst hit the earth about 2130 UTC from a Magnetar called SGR-1806. This GRB was so powerful that it was able to ionize our ionosphere, just like a solar flare, and cause ionospheric absorption down to the VLF frequencies. This indicates a GLE, a Ground Level Event, meaning the ionizing radiation from the GRB penetrated our atmosphere, all the way to ground level. There are amateur astronomers of sorts who monitor the signal strength from high powered VLF transmitters, such as the Navy stations NAA, NPM, NLK, etc. At VLF, signal strengths are fairly constant, varying a bit during day and night. Some of these amateur stations show a sudden absorption of signals at VLF due to the arrival of the GRB's. Some of their plots can be seen at: http://aavso.org Click on the "GCN #2932" button for the SID plots. Very interesting. For the real neophytes out there, http://gcn.gsfc.nasa.gov/gcn3_archive.html This is the clearinghouse for all observatories and satellites doing GRB monitoring and/or observing. A little on the heavy side, including several reports about the observing we're doing at the Very Large Array (VLA) radiotelescope on SGR-1806. Our normal observing schedule has been interupted to observe this strange phenomenon. The VLA has found SGR-1806 and is making images of it daily right now. It's not clear yet what SGR-1806 is, or was, other than something that possibly blew up big time, perhaps a collapsing pulsar, that has spewed debris and electrons out into space, traveling from 0.3 to 0.7 times the speed of light. It was the initial explosion, on Dec. 27th, that showered gamma rays into the earths ionosphere. This is an explosion that occured 200+ years ago, and the shockwave of gamma rays is so powerful, it was able to ionize our E and F layers, and absorb VLF propagation. Pretty impressive. If you look at the above link, "signal strengths" of the radio energy is measured by scientists by "flux density," using units of mJy ... milli Jansky's. For example, current VLA detected flux density of this event is about 100 mJy at L-band (1 GHz) and 30 mJy at C-band (8 GHz). 1 Jy (1 Jansky) = 1.7 x 10EE-23 mW. 1 mJy = 1.7 x 10EE-26 mW. Figure out what the dBm is of that. Now THAT is QRP! I noticed some complaining on qrp-l for several days after Dec. 27 about weird propagation and how some couldn't hear a "peep" on 80M, 6M, etc. Now you know why. 72, Paul NA5N PS - I work at the NRAO Very Large Array (VLA), the world's largest radio telescope, in Socorro, NM. However, I am posting this information from observatory information as a private individual ham radio QRP kind of guy. This is not an official observatory press release. It's not an official anything. You don't even have to believe it. And, I'm not using my work computer that tax payers bought me. So for those 3 individuals that have gotten a kick out of contacting my employer over my past solar/propagation posts, save your breath. I am not representing the NRAO in any way shape or form in this post or using tax payer stuff. For the rest of you, I hope you enjoy and find the info interesting. ______________________________________________________________ QRP-L mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/qrp-l Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:QRP-L@mailman.qth.net _______________________________________________ Ndblist mailing list (access the mail archive and your settings from the link below!) Ndblist@beaconworld.org.uk http://mail.beaconworld.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/ndblist_beaconworld.org.uk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 2005-01-03