Return-Path: <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Received: (qmail 40605 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2004 21:38:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Dec 2004 21:38:53 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1Cegut-0003oV-DB for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:42:43 +0000 Received: from [192.168.67.2] (helo=ptb-mxcore02.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1Cegut-0003oL-2t for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:42:39 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Cegr9-0008kI-Ub for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:38:48 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Cegqs-0006Jh-Dp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:38:30 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Cegqs-0006JY-0F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:38:30 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1Cegqj-0002eF-6h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:38:29 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (cmsout02.mbox.net [165.212.64.32]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3D74C974 for <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:38:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.138] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.21K); Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:38:14 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.138 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps02.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID429iLoVMo8525X02 Received: from [192.168.0.2] [151.41.158.179] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.21E) with ESMTP id 320iLoVML0309M38; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:38:11 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 151.41.158.179 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.0.2] Message-ID: <41C0AEC4.4070609@usa.net> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 22:38:12 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene <dibene@usa.net> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <01C4E1D5.9AEFB1A0.actalbot@southsurf.com> <41C0852D.4020709@freenet.de> <1103138111.41c08d3fbecd8@webmail2.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <1103138111.41c08d3fbecd8@webmail2.kuleuven.be> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Z-USANET-MsgId: XID320iLoVMm0309X38 X-SPF-Result: relay.thorcom.net: 165.212.64.32 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of usa.net X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,HTML_30_40=0.809,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY=0.544,MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.1 Subject: Re: LF: A bit of winter solstice reading.... Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050007010500020004040309" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050007010500020004040309 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> <font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Rik Strobbe wrote:</font> <blockquote cite="mid1103138111.41c08d3fbecd8@webmail2.kuleuven.be" type="cite"> <pre wrap=""><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Maybe the modulation methods suggested by Walker only work if used in combination with an EH-antenna ? 73, Rik ON7YD </font></pre> </blockquote> <font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">That's a definite possibility... you should write a rebuttal of the debunking done by Phil Karn KA9Q<br> of Qualcomm fame of the VMSK theory.... see <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ka9q.net/vmsk/">http://www.ka9q.net/vmsk/</a><br> <br> Who knows ? Maybe this Mr. Walker and that Vladimir Korobejnikov are closely related or even<br> the same person with different names... after all, when one has invented the perpetual motion, or a<br> new field that propagates at infinite speed, would he be afraid to invent a new name ? Unlikely...<br> <br> <big><font><font id="role_document" color="#000000" size="2"><big><i>> And , therefore, Alberto, in laymans terms, if such a change occurs instantly at any point in space where <br> > this field exists, it ceases to exist instantaneousy as the value of "time" reduces to zero.</i><br> <br> Pat, the only places in this Universe where time has a zero value, meaning with this that it has slowed down <br> and finally stopped its flow, are the horizons of events of the black holes, ideal surfaces placed at the<br> </big></font></font></big><big><font size="-1"><big>Schwarzschild’s radius from the (supposed) singularities that live in the kernel of black holes.<br> Thus that </big></font></big>Korobejnikov's theory must be confronted with this fact.... what happens when that so-called<br> Hz field encounters a black hole ? Infinite speed on one side and time dilated up to infinity on the other side...<br> Who will win ? What is the value of the ratio infinity over infinity ? Time to go to bed, I suppose....</font><br> <img alt="" src="cid:part1.06020301.09010708@usa.net" align="middle" height="212" width="288"> Two two-dimensional black holes connecting two different Universes...<br> 73 Alberto I2PHD<br> <br> <br> </body> </html> --------------050007010500020004040309 Content-Type: image/gif; name="hole1.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="hole1.gif" R0lGODlhIAHUAPAAAP///wAAACH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAAgAdQAAAL/hI+py+0Po5y02ouz3rz7 D4biSJbmiabqyrbuC8fyTNf2jef6zvf+DwwKh6+A8YhMKpfMpvMJjUqn1KqVSYQZEUfcVveV IRmBrKusCNfQXrbYnTaz1Gl4zP6m0clyFb6+dvPnt9cw2AdymFA4Z6NowvjwiKgxuWhJ8nfl JImZ6LlIWQJ6EJn5FEJFyEEqCtHKBeuQRCa7sYflYUph67rQa7Db2SUBjOE5diHMa+wL0Fz6 SFt5lqH0Cs3l3JEdXbfMO5ed7H26TT1KPrIZPNWeTgx5br3+BT4bhcLJXTa9Pn/sE5577eLN 0mfI3wRGBj90M2NMXS18EiM8DLVQ4aVi/wQlAaxgq6FFeyKVybOWrCS2iB+LHeulkdUohxXD 3Wpp0ULHWHB2UtyUC5oalSNlXQQCymgkn1ge7suY0OezVkd/ENWmDJypJQcTRd2lVSlInBML 0oHF9NtYr0XP6pR6tRxZjL9qYkMX1xBbkDGZvaxLrCqYQ7k63cr7ymEluxyzXoszt1TCrz1D hpEqWRe6gouHXVYk2AsfZogn0w3IbfMlo6u3dp07MKvZjIRDpkaNj2/f3L8iP4PMtxZhl/Rk mmw87DTU3mTtUEUuNyfu4jrfqjW9VjnAnsdJP5/e3Wb3e1Sd4xwanjT4n1Ba7+btmBRa7dvc fK/OOfs3tyinvv//LVsw6S1Enyuf4YdgdNKZVdUgEpUHnHj6haYFVvoRWFZbyFDHXlIODrig gPOwcd+FgLCXoIk/QadXisSJWJ+FEmJoWIbycZhYfhm+NiONADpjH4g5vjgVc2CsdiKRPvpI 4QpAVTEahkupOGSIG73To47+PfmYgTIuRxlj2EWpZJk8Aibbf1hO6At6QnrWGGhZVulRcrq9 eWaTJ3CHZ4tanjbckmaSaaQ0Y8yXop4zFUinmQ2Z52ejkhIa4Y9JZkZlo4r+w2idmfpXZKVf nmllpJeuCaqRn5K6qQiQujhoLKZiOimplCqYGVh6IBLberFGo8mtqv5Kq6jA1uopla3/KjYs mKv2M1CvyArLqIPCICrksrc1K2i35eBCraz7qTkqqjyBhi2soRIRaJ+2YgqusQyS+14hDBXb abKfaqsat96eW5i4MOJbGX9K+hNsktaixdqYSE1bYxMdbuEmvr8RteFX3Fa8JTvmzlkuD5Z4 2KV1DH5ZMMQhn6vdUNCSKxxcIwmBiaH2HobkwCQilvFr9lxKDmZYBhzuyjn0/PIyQqfKGXqX qWyxciLZtzNMk5RUM78gAyZ0RFS7nK+lEDvHZ2BLD0ybmPKKhmLUfrHC1cdy/kvwZxSXdldn 8zp8NMDSwA1MU/HO+q7F0L6jtrN/URb2G3gLvBjJuGg0jr4C/0rRn3HenZ2JZvzY7B3a/o6u c8kxc9RM4CLvBfh1gCtUc8yJ21mXLqlrzTfcNB0OT9VPQlIZs8ILsujnj79N054wE+vrDBRa 5t7wqZyy87acOkIIMlcf33i/kUcV4EnYO2noS483qRRB5OnJufXi1G47Y+yjPjv4uYvvvONM 13NN+1YSnbxjFQF3ohsg914nsZUt5SkpqB/+KpQHljUwbU/L1YdaEA//LU4L/IrLAem2p+zt qBp3GKBuuqHBVR1GaSlk0fteiBLOERCFDoScHyC4ilQsz22NiKEGW3i/EOoDiFxD1xqyVkPH TBCDoSEiBUlCvCI6kXb1wCDwesBA5f+h4kjmIJ+rPuikMHFpi0YTBBCn2D3FYZGAI/QBGOE3 xADSDItZeGMab9I6dlmlD2dD47o2qMeH8bFrCDEfH2nGRpy5S3PIk0MiQYhIdUlvJaLw4yeA 1LPOuZBXEDkHeYqXNy85ckTX6t0YT4nKVKpylaxsZSt9Mz5jjaw9XbAkLG+pmaCRTpbHsiUu f1kcjvGQl6l6JDCPCZzA7JI+jzEmMp/5IzRUJJM6ciY0oUkigA2TLrXEii+vCU7IcMx0fjNI kAoYznSehE/uiZvhLGRNdUZGmszM0jnFJs98Tg9t0iqVpaQZT31uzpWpLFY/JXVOghJUoCF7 JBTFdlDLrQv/oB87Q7sEaq1AgOqed0zYbPBpUYmqszaBeFlD55RQdIYRase8mh4eik5qwgug 37ySP8M5y/xVs2gFOlz1cMg8ZMq0hwCyi9e+pa2d1DQI8lFUl762TECpg6Z23CQkgVmeBj3K oB1TKR90aUFg7XBm3rsm9HZ3M3ORDWtZ/CcPx3oqHJlVd/FxKT8TRk56qupn9Msa68B5u+0d L5sKVBZGskpSHaaThvb6YAW3+a+EWgZsmgQs9T4aH7USrnBU6xhckijJX2oVtJ7lK668Sq2C kaR+ALzkXPmnTc/QgnduuxGh7pYS2O2mqjydpw5tZgW5bZaznS0tGYuyz2eOQ6kB/8vgq9Y2 3GjajZLqsR02P6dExmlpSsEZDcXEeq2OtC+gK43hW7YCu6EVjrg/LaZgG9k835CWe+HF7D9d o66tYjYs1T2vUP9EEZPxppt1u1eiTLumoPFXjckhr/JyJhwBY6dkr0LYcaaaTIQtGHVUXOqu uBbXUA4Yt+Va62B3K1Xa/rFGVt0fZEcEpxWLODfOracY2wPSURV3okh8m5gc3MWVrI+CNgXp 3EKLT2Eqk8GnIyssc3qyCLcFjjk+8rP2WsR95TaoMZpxOWX85QlHFLrrFd1qNbacpEX3xW26 6Y3dmWMR6ZXMcWZkrrw6xqAC+a8hFml0f2bgMpe5sYTtbf+RnWzoSiZ2a6mtlpvHRmX8wtfL ZQQSfK4qqEALes1JPssF48hpUfbZz7aKl8E2HWqO0lmF0N2znU/L0paRTUZ2ja832VnRhhm2 OYmutKk86o2RlZXKuDo1koXl6rKmKzuahjCqeYqxWbOZ2Iiedh2p/egcNTsUHsSj6z59JZiE z9qBvKOv7Uc61V4PwBfltrdVlGwJozbU6B51nFu7OVJn9N09ije8bW0YcEd1XtFq65o18cZl z7uT5j63AOtG6lVDeKgltiGXm+XvTepau3u1crbXHWkQX1xUGffnxpP2STCbmyWQRLDsno1x T+aDqvlYYawXfnPQZbaiw3yuol3/dzmPKxLmOM85dREoOChZWuK9rpOkMX3zOt9tkvZs05ih nqxtf3zkUROmXKsu6oY7nFVXjzijqS3tYXur5P4St9q9TsIJCfzYImX7ockt9m26nOtmb/Kl Wf0uuxvN7d1FLt2x/nBKR31tgsczv7cuq/Mll6zqOzzA3djuRZI7ZYsX9NQAX/Q/c7LvfVdq vZk+qG5PeuARt3sph95GqFk4uctjLtGh7chaD1tm54Vrli+P7Tqf3fV8JzZmCG9cd+B97DZM XfEjCHkWH//V7tM8/ITy/DtQ/IRqR7z3WR986wu/DYU379ctD/q/S6n6pNdo+hVWou4/Xvya Pf/tS0j//1xrj/1UFz/Cx/19IQV8sMZz4Hd/ARhV9ZV9yYZ8UqZ4zHeACNhq2iN0Z+d+meNs TDZ+Eph9bWd+eQeBVsQPFidvG8iB0Ydo47Vk88c2xvNboRdL8XMUpGVvzhNYRMRby4d+MfZF iZd/5bVzBJg5vDU/NleAGNhOFghUQlY+w1NVRZhdd4eETLho5BcmAIiFYrWDLOiAQaSEAQdn ZpRAIyh/WoiC1Ncaq6eG/adTS/SDW0JvnuM3U3iCdchnWvR+2tUqYQh71SZEUcREwkY9Y2g+ KfGH7XeH2gd9TRdaQIGItpaDbwhyHBR+ciiCD+RiRQCIL1VomHhDhaRyJvRSg//hR1rDPh72 iJVFfs8jBsCjYjGIf1YIYJYYd4olha2Iiy24H2wIhJGzQLqoiWZEP1zYiycUO7DIRMLIfVtY RcaYhcEIjaPoi3aIhrtIV21Yi4ooEBiDjHtji4voRTY4RBkkhuQUZEv4idoYiDS4Qr7nWtGY jgYUQShnjnBEcysIg82YjaAmgLlojObUD8z4Rcuyh6KIjcrIiUTVQAS5icAojsUISvx4gX1z NJbkVBB5kBTJRZ6oj+mwA3vmYGiEPnj4kYIkMg0ikS+4OkgBki0kkk6Bil+YkSdZORxJhyvJ VBlHhFeEXUOgk7lXjdd4k1ahk4IHRij5gdemlLwyWOcsSBuUYJRWt2HbqFBVaZVXiZVZqVAM xZVd6ZVfCZZhKZZjSZZlaZZniQIEgAIAOw== --------------050007010500020004040309--