Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9603 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2004 08:13:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-spamcore02.plus.net) (192.168.71.3) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Jul 2004 08:13:17 -0000 Received: from mailnull by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with spamcore-l-b (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BnvBk-0002sq-Ap for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 09:13:56 +0100 Received: from [192.168.67.3] (helo=ptb-mxcore03.plus.net) by ptb-spamcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.32; FreeBSD) id 1BnvBk-0002sb-87 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 09:13:56 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BnvB4-000M8i-P1 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 09:13:14 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BnvAa-0003OR-CN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 09:12:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.30] (helo=relay.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BnvAa-0003OI-0v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 09:12:44 +0100 Received: from sj-iport-1-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.70] helo=sj-iport-1.cisco.com) by relay.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BnvAU-0005gz-74 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 09:12:43 +0100 Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com (171.68.223.137) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 23 Jul 2004 01:15:02 -0700 X-BrightmailFiltered: true Received: from cisco.com (mrwint.cisco.com [64.103.71.48]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i6N8CPmI003403 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 01:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from g3ysx.org.uk (ams-clip-vpn-dhcp369.cisco.com [10.61.65.113]) by cisco.com (8.8.8-Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17251 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 09:12:23 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4100C866.1060304@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 09:12:22 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <002f01c46df8$a3fcfec0$72cdfc3e@l8p8y6> <005901c46e86$99e744c0$3401a8c0@JKA> <000101c46ec1$5e3e4820$69d0fc3e@l8p8y6> <40FF0AF9.5060400@genesiswireless.us> In-Reply-To: <40FF0AF9.5060400@genesiswireless.us> X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=no,RATWR10_MESSID=0.111 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Loops v Verticals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet SpamCORE (v3.00) WE0H Mike wrote: > I invite you to come to my house and build whatever wire vertical you can on my lot. I have the Ashlock TX loop in the air already. We can operate under my Part-5 license with high power if you like. We'll let the US LF group decide which antenna works best in my backyard. Quite right. Experimental evidence is the only way to resolve the issue. If the experiment agrees with theory, then that is good. If it does not, then it is the theory that needs to be extended or abandoned. - Stewart G3YSX