Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17235 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2000 22:22:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by dimple.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 30 Jan 2000 22:22:12 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12F2cT-0004jG-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:14:57 +0000 Received: from smtper.inrete.it ([212.110.32.184] helo=mailer.inrete.it) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12F2cS-0004jB-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:14:56 +0000 Received: from cel266 (nr35-140.inrete.it [212.110.35.140]) by mailer.inrete.it (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA04136 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:14:37 +0100 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:14:37 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Message-ID: <4.1.20000130230300.00abfe20@mailer.inrete.it> X-Sender: spin@mailer.inrete.it X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Versione 4.1 Data: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:13:09 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "M. Bruno" Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 seen in the US? In-reply-to: <38944E72.54AAF1AD@bellatlantic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: In 23.38 30/01/00 , hai scritto: >Hello Stewart >I can do that if / once the signal has been confirmed as being DCF >73 >Andre' > >Stewart Bryant wrote: > >> Andre - why not post it on a web site? > > > André, please send me the file. I exchanged similar snapshots with Bob Riese, K3DJC; it seems to me that he receives the right signal. A personal opinion: it will be very difficult to decide if a signal is or not DCF39, since if you look at it in a wideband mode, the signal will be buried in the noise; if you look at the carrier on 138.830 with an high-resolution spectrogram you will see only a carrier. The best ID for me will be the exact frequency. Try having a signal generator exactly 10 Hz away, and measure the exact frequency shift on the spectrogram. If you have a decent timebase, with 1 ppm precision, you will see the DCF39 carrier on the right frequency +/- 0.1 Hz. This, coupled with the day/night variations in the signal stenght, may be a good confirmation that you are looking to the right signal and not a local one. In any case my snapshot of Spectran screen with the DCF39 signal received at 600 km via sky wave is available for comparisons. Marco Bruno - IK1ODO spin@inrete.it SPIN Electronics - www.spin-it.com