X-GM-THRID: 1208338000489907197 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 6972fd317a6dbfd4f1fa856be54ffabf9affdbc3 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.17 with SMTP id w17cs215659qbh; Sat, 8 Jul 2006 05:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.233.18 with SMTP id f18mr2204291nfh; Sat, 08 Jul 2006 05:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o9si4288005nfa.2006.07.08.05.15.15; Sat, 08 Jul 2006 05:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FzBgR-0004nU-N6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2006 13:13:15 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FzBgR-0004nL-BP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2006 13:13:15 +0100 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.35]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FzBgO-0007Yv-F2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Jul 2006 13:13:15 +0100 Received: from MarkusVester@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id l.3cb.49282a5 (58550) for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2006 08:09:17 -0400 (EDT) From: MarkusVester@aol.com Message-ID: <3cb.49282a5.31e0fa6d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 08:09:17 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6104 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.002,HTML_10_20=0.295,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.178 Subject: Re: LF: QRM in Eastern Europe - vice versa? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3cb.49282a5.31e0fa6d_boundary" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HTML,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4912 --part1_3cb.49282a5.31e0fa6d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear LF, another point worth mentioning is the possibility of interference from an amateur transmitter to a telecontrol receiver. In the period before 1 W ERP was generally permitted in Germany, a few of us were asked by the authorities to submit technical reports on our LF activities. One aspect I covered in some detail was potential interference to a dense population of DCF 39 receivers. It was shown that, assuming 40 to 50 dB selectivity in the 139 kHz receiver, this would be very unlikely beyond nearfield ranges of about 150 meters from the amateur. However a HA station transmitting near the lower band edge would be cochannel interference to a receiver on 135.6 kHz. With 53 dB ERP difference and near the fringe of their coverage, it could potentially disrupt EFR service within a couple of kilometers. 73 Markus, DF6NM --part1_3cb.49282a5.31e0fa6d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear LF,

another point worth mentioning is the possibility of interference from an am= ateur transmitter to a telecontrol receiver.

In the period before 1 W ERP was generally permitted in Germany, a few of us= were asked by the authorities to submit technical reports on our LF activit= ies. One aspect I covered in some detail was potential interference to a den= se population of DCF 39 receivers. It was shown that, assuming 40 to 50 dB s= electivity in the 139 kHz receiver, this would be very unlikely beyond nearf= ield ranges of about 150 meters from the amateur. However a HA station trans= mitting near the lower band edge would be cochannel interference to a receiv= er on 135.6 kHz. With 53 dB ERP difference and near the fringe of their cove= rage, it could potentially disrupt EFR service within a couple of kilometers= .

73
Markus, DF6NM
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