Return-Path: Received: (qmail 36550 invoked from network); 27 Dec 2003 18:17:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan03.plus.net) (212.159.14.237) by ptb-mailstore01.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Dec 2003 18:17:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 39376 invoked from network); 27 Dec 2003 18:17:20 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from ptb-mxcore03.plus.net (212.159.14.217) by ptb-mxscan03.plus.net with SMTP; 27 Dec 2003 18:17:19 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1AaJ03-000A7p-9S for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 18:17:19 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1AaIzl-00022G-8c for rs_out@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 18:17:01 +0000 Received: from [165.212.11.111] (helo=cmsrelay02.mx.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.14) id 1AaIzh-000227-Lr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 18:16:57 +0000 Received: from uadvg129.cms.usa.net (165.212.11.129) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 27 Dec 2003 18:16:55 -0000 Received: from usa.net [151.38.71.179] by uadvg129.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.11E) with ESMTP id 385HLAsq10303M29; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 18:16:52 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 151.38.71.179 AUTH dibene@usa.net usa.net Message-ID: <3FEDCCA2.8080709@usa.net> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 19:17:06 +0100 From: "Alberto di Bene" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1f1.163ec2c5.2d1f01c1@aol.com> In-reply-to: <1f1.163ec2c5.2d1f01c1@aol.com> Subject: LF: Re: 60kHz: JJY and WWWB visible behind MSF Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.9 required=5.0 tests=FAKE_HELO_USA_NET,HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.60 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 MarkusVester@aol.com wrote:

Hi LF group,

in the gaps of the MSF timecode on 60kHz, it is possible to observe signal strength and phase progression of DX time stations JJY (Japan) and WWVB (Colorado) in Europe. You can find details of the experiment and a comment on ZDF TV-timebase jitter on

http://members.aol.com/df6nm/MSFgaps.htm

Markus
do you (or anybody else) know if the re-broadcasting of ZDF via the Astra satellite keeps
the timebase accuracy, or some frame buffer is inserted in between, that would of course
ruin that precison ? Thanks

73 Alberto I2PHD
P.S. My wife watches ZDF more often than the Italian television :-)