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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Stefan es co Ever since the introduction of data modes 137 has gradually gone down hill. In the days of CW and QRSS QSO mode there were over 30 countries active, also BEACON mode does not help. The band was at its best when QSO mode was the preferred choice, DATA MODES and NON STOP BEACONS chased all of the CW operators away to other bands like 160 metres. I have a shack full of LF equipment and Antennas to match but never hear any CW acty so have gone else where like 630 and 160 metres plus all the other HF bands [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: c3a0d80882a29f438f57a981c7a65fcd Subject: Re: LF: LF Activity - G3XIZ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01CF2AFD.816E3690" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01CF2AFD.816E3690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan es co Ever since the introduction of data modes 137 has gradually gone down = hill. In the days of CW and QRSS QSO mode there were over 30 countries = active, also BEACON mode does not help. The band was at its best when QSO mode was the preferred choice, DATA = MODES and NON STOP BEACONS chased all of the CW operators away to other = bands like 160 metres. I have a shack full of LF equipment and Antennas to match but never = hear any CW acty so have gone else where like 630 and 160 metres plus = all the other HF bands 73 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: schaefer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 4:12 PM Subject: Re: LF: LF Activity - G3XIZ Hello Chris,=20 Unfortunately i do not have much time this evening. However i will be = in the shack again sunday evening, if you like to try then. I can set up = a CW beacon on LF if you like but that does not help much in terms of = QSO activity. Who is ready and interested and audible in CW on LF these days? What would you think is the reason for the non-activity? One reason must be the higher noisefloor, several dB higher than 2001 = i assume, at least in urban locations. But that can't be the only = reason. Is it the 1000 different modes or the new 630m band? Is it the = availability of the internet? Or did "we" just became tired? Or = combinations of that? :-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 15.02.2014 14:25, schrieb Chris Osborn:=20 LF, I am at present puttng out test signals on 137.7 kHz should anyone = wish to check their RX. I shall be QRV on 137.7 kHz this evening from about 18.00Z again = putting out test signals and also some CQ calls using QRSS / DFCW I can try CW if conditions seem favourable. It would be a shame if after Dave's excellent LF / MF artical in = RadCom would-be ops took a listen on those bands and heard no amateur = activity. A quick look in my LF receive logbook for 2001 for this weekend = (actually 17/18 Feb) recorded the following stations - all on 136.5 kHz = CW: DJ9IE (3 times) F6CNI G3BDQ GW4ALG (2 times) EI0CF (2 times) GW4HXO G3XDV (2 times) G8RW G6NB GM3YXM/P SM6PXJ G6RO ON7ZO PA0BWL Happy days! 73 Chris G3XIZ ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01CF2AFD.816E3690 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stefan es co
Ever since the introduction of data = modes 137 has=20 gradually gone down hill. In the days of CW and QRSS QSO mode there were = over 30=20 countries active, also BEACON mode does not help.
The band was at its best when QSO mode = was the=20 preferred choice, DATA MODES and NON STOP BEACONS chased all of the CW = operators=20 away to other bands like 160 metres.
I have a shack full of LF = equipment  and=20 Antennas to match but never hear any CW acty so have gone else where = like 630=20 and 160 metres plus all the other HF bands
 
73 de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 schaefer
Sent: Saturday, February 15, = 2014 4:12=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: LF Activity -=20 G3XIZ

Hello Chris,

Unfortunately i do not have much = time this=20 evening. However i will be in the shack again sunday evening, if you = like to=20 try then. I can set up a CW beacon on LF if you like but that does not = help=20 much in terms of QSO activity.

Who is ready and interested and = audible=20 in CW on LF these days?

What would you think is the reason for = the=20 non-activity?

One reason must be the higher noisefloor, several = dB=20 higher than 2001 i assume, at least in urban locations. But that can't = be the=20 only reason. Is it the 1000 different modes or the new 630m band? Is = it the=20 availability of the internet? Or did "we" just became tired? Or = combinations=20 of that? :-)

73, Stefan/DK7FC

Am 15.02.2014 14:25, = schrieb Chris=20 Osborn:=20
LF,

I=20 am at present puttng out test signals on 137.7 kHz should anyone = wish to=20 check their RX.
I=20 shall be QRV on 137.7 kHz this evening from about 18.00Z again = putting out=20 test signals and also some CQ calls using QRSS / DFCW I =20 can try CW if conditions seem favourable.

It=20 would be a shame if after Dave's excellent LF / MF artical in RadCom = would-be ops took a listen on those bands and heard no amateur=20 activity.
A=20 quick look in my LF receive logbook for 2001 for this weekend = (actually=20 17/18 Feb) recorded the following stations - all on 136.5 kHz = CW:
DJ9IE =20 (3 times)
F6CNI G3BDQ GW4ALG=20 (2 times)
EI0CF=20 (2 times)
GW4HXO G3XDV=20 (2 times)
G8RW G6NB GM3YXM/P SM6PXJ G6RO ON7ZO PA0BWL
Happy=20 days!
73 Chris=20 G3XIZ
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