Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mg03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mg03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.203]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINMB042-a26e4dc3aebd50; Fri, 06 May 2011 04:18:05 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mg03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id F2BC53800008B; Fri, 6 May 2011 04:18:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QIGDT-0000Tf-SC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 May 2011 09:16:51 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QIGDT-0000TW-Cs for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 May 2011 09:16:51 +0100 Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.146]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QIGDQ-0004rE-Cg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 May 2011 09:16:51 +0100 Received: from mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.3]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p468GjWE019267 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 04:16:45 -0400 Received: from White (nrbg-4dbe4596.pool.mediaWays.net [77.190.69.150]) by mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 4B314E0000C1 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 04:16:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3E97BDADC61F4BB7BD0C3D0DEC1C4E04@White> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <538CA0F2-7D5F-405A-8B3C-BEED2E18674C@gmail.com> <4DC3A6F1.5020002@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 10:16:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: GBZ off air / NWC Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01CC0BD6.B4C77860" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60cb4dc3aebb6c87 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CC0BD6.B4C77860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, the sunrise maximum on short-path NWC was very pronounced between= 22:30 and 23:10, about 5 dB stronger than during the rest of the nigh= t. Thereafter it showed the usual long / short path interference patte= rn. This is also visible here when GBZ is active, and I have been cont= inuously monitoring it in the lower part of the wideband grabber at http://www.mydarc.de/df6nm/vlf/vlfgrabber.htm Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 9:44 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: GBZ off air / NWC Hello Roger, Lubos, Ah indeed. Yesterday i was wondering since i saw a trace between 19.5= and 20 kHz but actually it is NWC at 19.8 kHz (Australia), not GBZ.= NWC is peaking about 20 dB SNR here arround 23 UTC. About the same di= urnal maximum can be observed at G3ZJO and YO/4X1RF. Unfortunately it= is covered by some local noise at TF3HZ. Super strong at KL7UK... 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 06.05.2011 05:08, schrieb Lubos OK2BVG:=20 Hello Roger!=20 You are right! I normaly use GBZ signal for my PC sync. I noticed,= that it didn=B4t work. The signal disappeared 3.5.2011 at 08:15UTand= I have assumed, that it was due to repair.Thanks for your informatio= n.=20 Well, I use signal Alpha3 now.=20 73! Lubos, OK2BVG ************************ > From: rogerlapthorn@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 23:20:18 +0100 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; sub9khz@yahoogroups.com > Subject: LF: GBZ off air >=20 > On the VLF group I have learnt that there is maintenance at the An= thorn site affecting MSF 60kHz that will also mean GBZ will be off-air= . This will affect those using the transmission to sync SL for VLF wor= k.=20 >=20 > Not sure of all details.=20 >=20 > 73s > Roger G3XBM >=20 > Via my 2.4GHz handheld (iPod Touch 4g) ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CC0BD6.B4C77860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, the sunrise maximum on shor= t-path NWC was=20 very pronounced between 22:30 and 23:10, about 5 dB stronger than duri= ng the=20 rest of the night. Thereafter it showed the usual long / short pa= th=20 interference pattern. This is also visible here when GBZ is= active,=20 and I have been continuously monitoring it in the lower part= of=20 the wideband grabber at
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
 
 

Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: LF: GBZ off air / NWC
=
Hello Roger, Lubos,

Ah indeed. Yesterday i was= =20 wondering since i saw a trace between 19.5 and 20 kHz but actually it= is NWC at=20 19.8 kHz (Australia), not GBZ. NWC is peaking about 20 dB SNR here arr= ound 23=20 UTC. About the same diurnal maximum can be observed at G3ZJO and YO/4X= 1RF.=20 Unfortunately it is covered by some local noise at TF3HZ. Super strong= at=20 KL7UK...


73, Stefan/DK7FC



Am 06.05.2011 05:0= 8, schrieb=20 Lubos OK2BVG:=20
Hello Roger!=20
You are right! I normaly use GBZ signal for my PC sync. I notic= ed, that=20 it didn=B4t work. The signal disappeared 3.5.2011 at 08:15UTand I ha= ve assumed,=20 that it was  due to repair.Thanks for your information. 
Well, I use signal Alpha3 now. 

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG

************************

> From: rogerl= apthorn@gmail.com
>=20 Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 23:20:18 +0100
> To: = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org;=20 sub9khz@yahoogroups.com
>=20 Subject: LF: GBZ off air
>
> On the VLF group I have le= arnt that=20 there is maintenance at the Anthorn site affecting MSF 60kHz that wi= ll also=20 mean GBZ will be off-air. This will affect those using the transmiss= ion to=20 sync SL for VLF work.
>
> Not sure of all details. >=20
> 73s
> Roger G3XBM
>
> Via my 2.4GHz hand= held (iPod=20 Touch 4g)
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