Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8544 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2002 20:16:04 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 4 Dec 2002 20:16:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 5209 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2002 20:15:44 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Dec 2002 20:15:44 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.10) id 18Jfvi-0005ak-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 20:15:34 +0000 Received: from [62.253.162.42] (helo=mta02-svc.ntlworld.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Jfvh-0005aa-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 20:15:33 +0000 Received: from virgin.net ([81.98.79.86]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021204201529.GEIB2181.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@virgin.net> for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 20:15:29 +0000 Message-ID: <3DEE6227.7060107@virgin.net> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 20:14:31 +0000 From: "Stewart Bryant" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <036201c29bcc$641d4a30$0101a8c0@athlon> Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: ADSL EMC with LF operation? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_05_08,USER_AGENT, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANGversion=2.42 Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group John This is actually an important topic, since our own installation, or that or our neighbours may have an impact on operating. To clarify Dave's point, the service provider ownes the first point of attachment in the home, so only they can legally replace this for an ADSL suitable interface (even assuming that you can get one). In my case, the ADSL entered the house via an overhead line, and then crossed within the outer area of the loft to the interface box. At this point it was within 15 feet of my G5RV which I occasionally used on 136KHz. What you might be able to do on your own installation is to put the ADSL router on the house master socket and then put a low pass filter in line with the telephone connection to the rest of the house. Presumably you could use one of the socket filters to do this. Stewart Dave Brown wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John W Gould" > snip > (only BT here in > >>the UK offers "engineer assisted" as they own the "local loop"). > > > But they don't own the house wiring, do they? > Any good reason why you cannot install an 'engineer assisted' wiring > arrangement yourself, John? > > Here in ZL the 'engineer assisted' variation is one option- the other being > DIY-however and whatever you want-any and all resulting problems with either > service being yours to deal to as well! > Naturally the recommended method is to replicate the 'engineer assisted' > installation but not all bother. > > Just before I left Telecom NZ a month or two ago I had been carrying out > extensive testing into the vulnerability or otherwise of ADSL- believe me, > it is VERY robust, especially downstream. I expect your main problem at 136 > kHz would be related to the susceptibility of the ADSL modem in the general > EMC sense, rather than any ADSL specific issues. > 73 > Dave > ZL3FJ > > > >