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Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "pws" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 5:50 PM Subject: LF: Thunderstorms and LF-Propagation Disturbances [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [212.82.109.245 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines X-Scan-Signature: 046f068074e745d5c60ca47deee9b503 Subject: LF: Re: Thunderstorms and LF-Propagation Disturbances Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:479135008:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d019.2 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4acf4ff484030110 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Peter that is very interesting, I have not seen anything quite like that before. It is a nice observation. I have heard of the effect, but not seen to convincing a plot. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "pws" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 5:50 PM Subject: LF: Thunderstorms and LF-Propagation Disturbances > Hi, > > I'm observing the strength of HGA22 since some years. > At late evening of 2012-07-02 strong thunderstorm activity happened > over E-Germany/Poland/Czech Republic. That's right below the > reflection area, assuming a 1-hop propagation. > See: http://www.df3lp.de/misc/hga22/propagation_path.png > > It's well known that lightnings may heat the ionosphere from > below causing disturbances (SIDs). I very often observed > those phenomena called "early/fast events". But what happened > last Monday evening looks record-breaking. I never saw such > chain of ionospheric disturbances. > See: http://www.df3lp.de/misc/hga22/2012-07-02_thunderstorm.png > > Yellow is the raw signal at 10 samples/sec. and blue represents > a running median of 100 data points. The comb-like structures > are from the modulation bursts - I'm receiving the "space" > frequency only. As you can see that's all "signal" and not > qrn/qrm or local interference. A control receiver running > ~6km apart confirms the observations. > > Peter, df3lp >