Return-Path: Received: (qmail 379 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2002 00:05:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2002 00:05:25 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 18891 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2002 00:05:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2002 00:05:24 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16kbDM-00046D-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 01:36:32 +0000 Received: from mail.sitestar.net.234.160.205.in-addr.arpa ([205.160.234.8] helo=mail2.sitestar.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16kbDL-000468-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 01:36:31 +0000 Received: from sitestar.net [216.8.12.72] by mail2.sitestar.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A5718EC50022; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 19:01:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3C8D4589.A9181FA7@sitestar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 19:02:17 -0500 From: "Rye Gewalt" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: bows/cats References: <3C8CF2E4.1D628CCC@netscapeonline.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Declude-Sender: ryeg@sitestar.net [216.8.12.72] Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Do a web search on Potato Cannons. They can be inexpensively made from PVC pipe and fueled with propane from a hand torch. They will throw a 2" diameter hunk of potato several hundred feet. They are reasonably safe, easy to make and one hell of a lot of fun. Generally quite accurate too. Proven technology....... Rye K9LCJ gii3kev wrote: > There are numerous ways to get a wire over a tree and its interesting to > hear so many viewpoints. I dont have any problems with a catapult and > fishing line to get over 60 - 80 ft trees, in fact the line not only > goes over the tree but often goes way beyond the tree by 50 ft, and not > difficult ot spot the line and weight. A catapult and fishing line are > easy to obtain, whereas a strong 100- 200 lb bow is hard to find and no > doubt expensive for the odd job, hardly cost effective. > A crossbow at 300 lbs would be the answer with the appropriate heavy > ended arrow, this would take a line well over the big oregon pine at 200 > ft high, but you have to be strong otherwise you would be incapable of > pulling the bow string to load the arrow. The cannon approach is the > best option and let the gunpowder do all the work, the biggest effort > for the user is digging out the cannon ball at the other end. > There seems to be plenty of feedback about methods of getting ropes over > trees but little technical knowledge about large loops, feed methods and > performance, apart from contributions from the USA. Plenty of back end > DC engineers, digital and psk but RF engineers thin on the ground. > de Mal/G3KEV