Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16305 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2002 17:19:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2002 17:19:49 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 1351 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2002 17:19:49 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2002 17:19:49 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16hxNh-0006WW-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Mar 2002 18:40:17 +0000 Received: from mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk ([194.201.52.152]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16hxNg-0006WQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Mar 2002 18:40:16 +0000 Received: from ldsas12-76-127-55.cw-visp.com ([212.137.127.55] helo=netscapeonline.co.uk) by mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16hvf6-0002jB-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Mar 2002 16:50:09 +0000 Message-ID: <3C83A819.D73F7D7C@netscapeonline.co.uk> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 17:00:10 +0000 From: "gii3kev" Organization: Netscape Online member X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en-gb]C-CCK-MCD NetscapeOnline.co.uk (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb rsgb" Subject: LF: loops Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Has anyone ever tried a large multi turn loop that resonates directly on a LF of interest. Most amateurs cannot get a full size one wavelength loop installed for 160 metres but a 40 metre loop is manageable, so instead of a 1 turn loop on this freq make it 4 turns plus or minus to get it to resonate on 160 metres. ie just a large diameter resonant 160m coil used as an antenna. This principle could be used on 136 khz for instance, the same 40 m dimensions but with as many turns as nessary to resonate it on the lower freq of interest. There will be practical differences and it will probably not work out at x N turns because of capacitance etc, but the approach to achieve resonance is the criteria on the lower freqs. When I say large loop I mean some thing like 40 m and nothing too large, but sufficient size to have a chance of working and keep the Q reasonable. The loop would be hanging vertically and the bottom wire at least 6 feet(2m) off the ground. Maybe someone has already tried this procedure. I know there are multi turn small loops of various configurations, series wound, parallel wound, series tuned, parallel tuned etc and preamps but I do not recall any research figures published for large multi turn loops. When I get time I intend to put up a large loop and instead of a single turn suitably resonated on 136 khz I am thinking along the lines of the series multi turn loop. 73 de Mal/G3KEV