Return-Path: <majordom@post.thorcom.com> Received: (qmail 11237 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2002 10:25:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by exhibition.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2002 10:25:05 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 11870 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2002 10:24:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2002 10:24:54 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16bJ1w-0006mZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:22:20 +0000 Received: from e21.nc.us.ibm.com ([32.97.136.227]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16bJ1u-0006mU-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:22:19 +0000 Received: from southrelay01.raleigh.ibm.com (southrelay01.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.3.208]) by e21.nc.us.ibm.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA124134 for <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 04:16:32 -0600 Received: from usa.net (ss3.bld.socks.ibm.com [9.14.4.68]) by southrelay01.raleigh.ibm.com (8.11.1m3/NCO/VER6.00) with ESMTP id g1EALNK206522 for <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 05:21:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3C6B8F7C.7AED8AD7@usa.net> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:20:45 +0100 From: "Alberto di Bene" <dibene@usa.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: HELL Tests on 137.400 kHz References: <200202140358_MC3-F1F6-F64D@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: <majordom@post.thorcom.com> "Holger 'Geri' Kinzel, DK8KW" wrote: > Although people do claim that machines can detect and read signals burried > in noise better than the human senses, I have not yet seen this really > happening (despite, probably, WOLF, but this also works only if a human eye > looks through the garbled text received and immediately finds those > sequences that make sense). Well, I did reason along these same lines in the past, but some tests I performed recently convinced me of the contrary. I am preparing a Web page that will show a perfect copy of a Jason signal, while that very same signal is practically undetectable with Argo. Admittedly, this was with AWGN noise only, not a common occurrence in real life, but it made me think... 73 Alberto I2PHD