Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14423 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2001 18:18:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Oct 2001 18:18:38 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 1466 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2001 18:18:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 15 Oct 2001 18:18:21 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 15tCF3-0005Vj-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:13:33 +0100 Received: from mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk ([194.201.52.152]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 15tCF2-0005VY-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:13:32 +0100 Received: from ldsas13-77-128-233.cw-visp.com ([212.137.128.233] helo=netscapeonline.co.uk) by mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 15tC5Q-0004xR-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:03:37 +0000 Message-ID: <3BCB18E9.B3067E26@netscapeonline.co.uk> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:12:09 +0100 From: "gii3kev" Organization: Netscape Online member X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en-gb]C-CCK-MCD NetscapeOnline.co.uk (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb rsgb" Subject: LF: Repeaters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: I do not think the way forward on LF is via vhf repeaters regardless on a persons QTH environment. I recently worked VK, ZS6 and W4 on 2 metres via the GB7LY repeater and all that I achieved was a two way qso to the repeater the rest of the distance was covered using the internet system. This is an interesting approach but it does not encourage experimentation if fact it does the opposite. I hope those using such a system including our friend in Canada who confesses to using vhf/uhf links for LF and HF linking does not claim any AWARDS. I hope the recent transatlantic claims do not include any linking of any kind but genuine contacts on the 136 khz band from the home qth, where the LF tx/rx is located. Please do not call/work me via the repeater. If you look at the mail its the same old cronies that support each other regardless of what others think. How about learning morse code and perfecting operating procedures so that you can make a genuine qso direct, also try some outside activities like putting up a proper antenna. If you live in a poor radio environment and dearly love LF then MOVE to a suitable location, you would not buy an expensive yacht for sailing except you lived beside or near a lake or seaside. Present day amateur radio seems to be an APPLIANCE OPERATOR persuit and certainly does not encourage the true RF experimenter. de G3KEV