Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4709 invoked from network); 17 May 2001 11:24:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 17 May 2001 11:24:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 19132 invoked from network); 17 May 2001 11:23:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 17 May 2001 11:23:25 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 150Lme-0000ak-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 May 2001 12:17:32 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from [213.2.16.106] (helo=rsgb.org.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 150Lma-0000af-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 May 2001 12:17:28 +0100 Received: from miked by rsgb.org.uk with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v4.0.0.R) for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 12:06:39 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:06:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF Prop. Message-ID: <3B03BECC.20798.9BB358@localhost> In-reply-to: <000201c0deb5$c2989400$ebca28c3@ericadodd> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) X-Return-Path: miked@mail X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: G3LDO wrote: > There is this thing called LUF (Lowest Usable Frequency). Not much in ham > literature about it but from Bill Orr's Radio Handbook it depends on > transmitter erp and atmospheric noise. Generally speaking the LUF can be > lowered (at HF) by approximately 2MHz for each 10dB increase in erp. > However it is obvious that the LUF changes throughout the day. Does it > follow the MUF? If it does then it will follow the sunspot cycle. > Are there any average graphs of LUF? My understanding is that LUF and MUF are purely F-layer functions, so are not relevant to us if you accept Alan's assumption that sky-wave propagation is by D-layer with perhaps some E-layer. Also, is the MUF really measured? It will change for every path, and for prediction purposes is usually calculated from the Critical Frequency (ie the point at which the signals go straight through the ionosphere). Perhaps LUF is also just a calculation. Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT) http://www.lf.thersgb.net