Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10250 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2001 15:27:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 11 Apr 2001 15:27:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 3517 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2001 15:27:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 11 Apr 2001 15:27:48 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14nMMp-0001JO-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:17:11 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from [213.2.16.106] (helo=rsgb.org.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14nMMl-0001JJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:17:07 +0100 Received: from miked by rsgb.org.uk with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.8.7.5.R) for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:15:19 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:15:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: LF: wolf Message-ID: <3AD48313.12322.188BA97@localhost> In-reply-to: <3AD4C8FB.94F65F10@ns.sympatico.ca> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Return-Path: miked@mail Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: VE1ZJ wrote: > Hi all, I saw the spectrum plot Alberto provided of Valerio's wolf > transmission. What an ugly sight. It takes between 15 and 20 Hz of > specytum space. > With 30 sec dots I can receive and separate a station every 250 > millihertz. In other words In the space of one wolf transmission 60 to > 80 QRSS stations could be trying to have QSOs. Ah, but the intention of WOLF is to get the information across much faster. You are better off comparing it to normal CW which occupies a similar bandwidth and take only a few minutes to complete a QSO. The important thing is data transfer rate, ie bandwidth multiplied by the time it takes to get the message through. To turn your equation around, perhaps you can get 60 to 80 WOLF QSOs in the time it takes for one QRSS or DFCW QSO. I am keeping an open mind on this one, at least until WOLF is as friendly to use as QRSS, or never gets popular because it is still too complex. Plainly QRM to others will be an issue. We have the next six months (of high QRN) to see what happens, or if something else comes along. I still like the idea of multi-tone (ie multi- frequency), but this still trades bandwidth for transmission speed - as does DFCW. 73 Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT) http://www.lf.thersgb.net