Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tAU05aQc031727 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 01:05:36 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1a3BvO-0000Tf-Vq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 00:02:34 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1a3BvO-0000TW-Dj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 00:02:34 +0000 Received: from smtpout1.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.29] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1a3BuK-0005ZJ-9u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 00:02:33 +0000 Received: from AGB ([95.150.80.137]) by mwinf5d09 with ME id nc1B1r00B2xlZKT03c1Bpu; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 01:01:12 +0100 X-ME-Helo: AGB X-ME-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 01:01:12 +0100 X-ME-IP: 95.150.80.137 Message-ID: <3A9D0561D7014C6CA8D726E83F95BD11@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B297FB5@servigilant.vigilant.local> <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B29811E@servigilant.vigilant.local>, <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B2984E1@servigilant.vigilant.local>, <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B2985B2@servigilant.vigilant.local>,<264A69F3DD554992AF30B414DC560191@AGB> <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B2985CF@servigilant.vigilant.local>,<6605D603A1BF409F95B6AE8967A3BE8A@AGB> <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B2986B8@servigilant.vigilant.local> In-Reply-To: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B2986B8@servigilant.vigilant.local> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 00:01:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Scan-Signature: c8e6a610b8081fa324d8057b79d67afa Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0138_01D12B02.38C2BB30" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5456 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0138_01D12B02.38C2BB30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How odd , may be just at the change over time , but another in from = EI8JK and now SV8CS-5 , with -35 dB , the path to EI looks = reliable ! skips very sharp these nights , 100 miles and you have = dropped out .. 73-G 23:47 477 EA5DOM de SV8CS-5 Op8 Deep Search 1130 mi -35 dB in Zakynthos = 1519.5 Hz with 0.1w + Vert 11+80m 23:46 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 mi +0 dB F:1%_End in Albir 1519,0 Hz = with 0.1w + Vert 11+80m 23:35 477 EA5DOM de EI8JK Op8 Deep Search 1014 mi -36 dB in Bantry, = South West Ireland 1520.5 Hz with 0.1w + Vertical 11+8 23:34 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 mi -1 dB F:7% in Albir 1519,3 Hz with = 0.1w + Vertical 11+80m 23:35 477 EA5DOM de EI8JK Op8 Deep Search 1014 mi -36 dB in Bantry, = South West Ireland 1520.5 Hz with 0.1w + Vertical 11+8 23:34 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 mi -1 dB F:7% in Albir 1519,3 Hz with = 0.1w + Vertical 11+80m From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 10:57 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Not exactly Graham=20 The decode on my monitor is at 19:22 not at 19:20 Copy from server spots received at that time 19:22 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 7 km -1 dB F:1%_End in Albir 1519,0 Hz 19:21 477 EA5DOM de R6LDD Op8 Deep Search ?? 3185 km -37 dB in = NOVOROSSIYSK 1522,2 Hz 19:20 477 SV8CS de EA5DOM Op8 -27 dB F:38% in Albir 1498,5 Hz Yes, two spots from EI8JK. And also in WSPR a good one from DH5RAE at = 1576Km 2015-11-29 21:12 EA5DOM 0.475606 -29 0 IM98wn 0.05 = DH5RAE JN68qv 1576 39 =20 G8HUH and G3XKR joining the party with also long paths and good reports 2015-11-29 22:24 EA5DOM 0.475609 -16 0 IM98wn 0.05 = G8HUH IO81mg 1430 352 =20 2015-11-29 22:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98wn 0.05 = G3XKR IO70ux 1419 348 =20 I will add an atenuator tomorrow trying to find the antenna "limits" = :-O 73 de Luis EA5DOM -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham = [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] Enviado: domingo, 29 de noviembre de 2015 23:35 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Ok Luis , The web-distributed spots have , 1920z for you and sv8cs ? ,=20 19:21 477 EA5DOM de R6LDD Op8 Deep Search 1979 mi -37 dB in NOVOROSSIYSK = 1522,2 Hz 19:20 477 SV8CS de EA5DOM Op8 -27 dB F:38% in Albir 1498,5 Hz 19:20 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 mi -1 dB F:14%_Ini in Albir 1518,6 Hz This just arrived =20 22:23 477 EA5DOM de EI8JK Op8 Deep Search 1014 mi -35 dB in Bantry, = South West Ireland 1520.5 Hz 22:22 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 mi +0 dB F:1%_End in Albir 1519,3 Hz 73-G, From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 10:17 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Well. Looks hard to believe but from my WSPR decodes I changed the power = value to 0.05w=20 in the WSPR frame when Txing 20dBm. And the first frame transmitted was 2015-11-29 19:12 EA5DOM 0.475607 +5 0 IM98wn 0.05 = EA5DOM-1 IM98xn 7 90=20 Then from 19:14 to 19:22 the Opera8 frame at 20dBm took place. That = matchs with my own decode 19:22 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 7 km -1 dB F:1%_End in Albir 1519,0 Hz So R6LDD decoded Deep Search 2 minutes earlier than expected or may be = he has not a synchronized PC clock May be even he could not get the full frame. No fade info in the spot. = But he spotted before my own spot !! 19:21 477 EA5DOM de R6LDD Op8 Deep Search ?? 3185 km -37 dB in = NOVOROSSIYSK 1522,2 Hz Unfortunately R6LDD went QRT and is actually not QRV. Very interesting = spot and would worth to get more than one :-) 73 de Luis EA5DOM -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham = [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] Enviado: domingo, 29 de noviembre de 2015 22:44 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Ok,Luis ,=20 this was 5 watts ? 19:21 477 EA5DOM de R6LDD Op8 Deep Search 1979 mi -37 dB in NOVOROSSIYSK = 1522,2 Hz This 20 dBm ? 19:47 477 EA5DOM de EI8JK Op8 Deep Search 1014 mi -36 dB in Bantry, = South West Ireland 1520.5 Hz 73-G, From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 9:30 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment That was the last QRO transmission with 5W Graham=20 Txing at 20dBm since 19:22 utc Reports on my monitor from -1 to 0dB So far not monitors in Opera at less than 1000Km 73 de Luis EA5DOM -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham = [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] Enviado: domingo, 29 de noviembre de 2015 22:14 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Luis , Are these qro or qrp ?=20 73-G, 19:11 477 EA5DOM de G0NBD Op8 Deep Search 1037 mi -36 dB in WALLASEY = 1520.0 Hz 19:11 477 EA5DOM de EB5EA Op8 Deep Search 71 mi -34 dB in IM99tn = Moncada-Valencia 1522,7 Hz 19:10 477 EA5DOM de EI8JK Op8 1014 mi -32 dB F:14% in Bantry, South West = Ireland 1520.5 Hz 19:21 477 EA5DOM de R6LDD Op8 Deep Search 1979 mi -37 dB in NOVOROSSIYSK = 1522,2 Hz 19:47 477 EA5DOM de EI8JK Op8 Deep Search 1014 mi -36 dB in Bantry, = South West Ireland 1520.5 Hz 19:46 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 mi -1 dB F:1%_End in Albir 1519,0 Hz From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 7:30 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Hi Graham, MF=20 Good idea. Let's see where is the imit I have just connected the U3 directly to antenna. Have not measured = power yet but may be under 500mW I'm not using the 3xBS170 but a mosfet driver instead, ICL7667 if I can = recall correctly Spots in WSPR dropped to just the EA monitors 73 de Luis=20 EA5DOM -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham = [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] Enviado: s=E1bado, 28 de noviembre de 2015 21:53 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Hi Luis=20 Nice going for 5 watts, but -8 dB with 75 % of the signal = recovered , your nearly +30 over the limit .. can you drop the = power down by 20 dB ? say 50 mW ?? 73-G,=20 20:46 477 EA5DOM de G3XKR Op8 -8 dB F:24% in BIDEFORD Devon 20:34 477 EA5DOM Op8 1520.0 Hz -28 dB |---------- - -- | Fade: 15% 20:23 477 EA5DOM Op8 Deep Search -35 dB 1520.0 Hz=20 20:22 477 SO5AS Op8 1496.1 Hz -27 dB |------------| Fade: 3% 20:10 477 EA5DOM Op8 1519.8 Hz -29 dB |---------- | Fade: 7% From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez=20 Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 8:22 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Hi MF Back home ! Antenna is up again and I' transmitting with only 5W from a small PA I will take the opportunity to install the 100W PA in the terrace, as = originally planned Txing WSPR and Opera8 every 12 minutes 73 de Luis EA5DOM ------=_NextPart_000_0138_01D12B02.38C2BB30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

How odd , may be  just at the  change = over time=20 , but another  in from  EI8JK and  now  SV8CS-5 = , =20 with  -35 dB , the  path to  EI looks  reliable = ! =20 skips very sharp  these nights ,  = 100 =20 miles and you have  dropped  out ..

73-G

 

23:47 477 EA5DOM de SV8CS-5 Op8 Deep Search 1130 mi -35 dB in = Zakynthos 1519.5 Hz with 0.1w + Vert = 11+80m

23:46 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 mi +0 dB F:1%_End in Albir = 1519,0 Hz=20 with 0.1w + Vert 11+80m

23:35 477 EA5DOM de EI8JK Op8 Deep Search 1014 mi -36 dB in Bantry, = South=20 West Ireland 1520.5 Hz with 0.1w + Vertical 11+8

23:34 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 mi -1 dB F:7% in Albir 1519,3 Hz = with 0.1w +=20 Vertical 11+80m

23:35 477 EA5DOM de EI8JK Op8 Deep Search 1014 mi -36 dB in Bantry, = South=20 West Ireland 1520.5 Hz with 0.1w + Vertical 11+8

23:34 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 mi -1 dB F:7% in Albir 1519,3 Hz = with 0.1w +=20 Vertical 11+80m


From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=E1ndez
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 10:57 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the=20 moment

Not=20 exactly Graham=20

The decode on my monitor is at 19:22 not at 19:20
Copy from server spots received at that time

19:22    477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 7 km -1 dB F:1%_End in = Albir=20 1519,0 Hz
19:21    477 EA5DOM de R6LDD Op8 Deep Search ?? 3185 km = -37 dB in=20 NOVOROSSIYSK 1522,2 Hz
19:20    477 SV8CS de EA5DOM Op8 -27 dB F:38% in Albir = 1498,5=20 Hz

Yes, two spots from EI8JK. And also in WSPR a good one from DH5RAE = at=20 1576Km

2015-11-29 21:12   EA5DOM   0.475606   -29   0   IM98wn   0.05   DH5RAE   JN68qv   1576   39

G8HUH and G3XKR joining the party with also long paths and good=20 reports

 2015-11-29 22:24   EA5DOM   0.475609   -16   0   IM98wn   0.05   G8HUH   IO81mg   1430   352   2015-11-29 22:00   EA5DOM   0.475608   -28   0   IM98wn   0.05   G3XKR   IO70ux   1419   348

I will add an atenuator tomorrow trying to find the antenna = "limits"=20  :-O

73 de Luis
EA5DOM
De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham=20 [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk]
Enviado: domingo, 29 de noviembre de = 2015=20 23:35
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: = LF:=20 EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment

Ok Luis ,
 
The  web-distributed  spots  have , 1920z  = for =20 you  and  sv8cs ? ,
 

19:21 477 EA5DOM de R6LDD Op8 Deep Search 1979 mi -37 dB in = NOVOROSSIYSK=20 1522,2 Hz

19:20 477 SV8CS de EA5DOM Op8 -27 dB F:38% in Albir 1498,5=20 Hz

19:20 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 mi -1 dB F:14%_Ini in Albir 1518,6=20 Hz

This  just  arrived 

22:23 477 EA5DOM de EI8JK Op8 Deep Search 1014 mi -35 dB in Bantry, = South=20 West Ireland 1520.5 Hz

22:22 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 mi +0 dB F:1%_End in Albir 1519,3=20 Hz

73-G,

From: VIGILANT Luis = Fern=E1ndez
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 10:17 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the=20 moment

Well.=20 Looks hard to believe but from my WSPR decodes I changed the power value = to=20 0.05w=20
in the WSPR frame when Txing 20dBm. And the first frame transmitted = was

2015-11-29 19:12   EA5DOM   0.475607   +5   0   IM98wn   0.05   EA5DOM-1   IM98xn   7   90

Then from 19:14 to 19:22 the Opera8 frame at 20dBm took place. That = matchs=20 with my own decode

19:22    477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 7 km -1 dB F:1%_End in = Albir=20 1519,0 Hz

So R6LDD decoded Deep Search 2 minutes earlier than expected or may = be he=20 has not a synchronized PC clock
May be even he could not get the full frame. No fade info in the = spot. But=20 he spotted before my own spot !!

19:21    477 EA5DOM de R6LDD Op8 Deep Search ?? 3185 km = -37 dB in=20 NOVOROSSIYSK 1522,2 Hz

Unfortunately R6LDD went QRT and is actually not QRV. Very = interesting spot=20 and would worth to
get more than one :-)

73 de Luis
EA5DOM
De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham=20 [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk]
Enviado: domingo, 29 de noviembre de = 2015=20 22:44
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: = LF:=20 EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment

Ok,Luis , 

 this was   5  watts  ?

19:21 477 EA5DOM de R6LDD Op8 Deep Search 1979 mi -37 dB in = NOVOROSSIYSK=20 1522,2 Hz

This  20 dBm  ?

19:47 477 EA5DOM de EI8JK Op8 Deep Search 1014 mi -36 dB in Bantry, = South=20 West Ireland 1520.5 Hz

73-G,


From: VIGILANT Luis = Fern=E1ndez
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 9:30 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the=20 moment

That=20 was the last QRO transmission with 5W Graham=20

Txing at 20dBm since 19:22 utc
Reports on my monitor from -1 to 0dB

So far not monitors in Opera at less than 1000Km

73 de Luis
EA5DOM
De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham=20 [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk]
Enviado: domingo, 29 de noviembre de = 2015=20 22:14
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: = LF:=20 EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment

Luis ,
 
Are these   qro or  qrp   ?
 
73-G,

19:11 477 EA5DOM de G0NBD Op8 Deep Search 1037 mi -36 dB in WALLASEY = 1520.0=20 Hz

19:11 477 EA5DOM de EB5EA Op8 Deep Search 71 mi -34 dB in IM99tn=20 Moncada-Valencia 1522,7 Hz

19:10 477 EA5DOM de EI8JK Op8 1014 mi -32 dB F:14% in Bantry, South = West=20 Ireland 1520.5 Hz

19:21 477 EA5DOM de R6LDD Op8 Deep Search 1979 mi -37 dB in = NOVOROSSIYSK=20 1522,2 Hz

19:47 477 EA5DOM de EI8JK Op8 Deep Search 1014 mi -36 dB in Bantry, = South=20 West Ireland 1520.5 Hz

19:46 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 mi -1 dB F:1%_End in Albir 1519,0=20 Hz

 
 

From: VIGILANT Luis = Fern=E1ndez
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 7:30 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the=20 moment

Hi=20 Graham, MF=20

Good idea. Let's see where is the imit

I have just connected the U3 directly to antenna. Have not measured = power=20 yet but may be under 500mW
I'm not using the 3xBS170 but a mosfet driver instead, ICL7667 if I = can=20 recall correctly

Spots in WSPR dropped to just the EA monitors

73 de Luis 
EA5DOM
De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham=20 [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk]
Enviado: s=E1bado, 28 de noviembre = de 2015=20 21:53
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: = LF:=20 EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment

Hi Luis
 
Nice going  for  5  watts,  but  -8 dB=20  with  75 % of the  signal  recovered , =  your =20 nearly  +30 over the  limit .. can you drop the  power = down=20 by  20 dB ?  say 50 mW ??
 
73-G,
 

20:46 477 EA5DOM de G3XKR Op8 -8 dB F:24% in BIDEFORD=20 Devon

20:34 477 EA5DOM Op8 1520.0 Hz -28 dB |---------- - -- | Fade:=20 15%

20:23 477 EA5DOM Op8 Deep Search -35 dB 1520.0 Hz =

20:22 477 SO5AS Op8 1496.1 Hz -27 dB |------------| Fade: 3%

20:10 477 EA5DOM Op8 1519.8 Hz -29 dB |---------- | Fade:=20 7%

 

Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 8:22 PM
Subject: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the=20 moment

Hi MF

Back home !

Antenna is up again and I' transmitting with only 5W from a small = PA

I will take the opportunity to install the 100W PA in the terrace, = as=20 originally planned

Txing WSPR and Opera8 every 12 minutes

73 de Luis
EA5DOM
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