Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27084 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2001 14:13:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 23 Feb 2001 14:13:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 19747 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2001 14:13:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 23 Feb 2001 14:13:37 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14WImv-0004Aw-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:01:37 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from [213.2.16.106] (helo=rsgb.org.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14WImt-0004Aq-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:01:36 +0000 Received: from miked by rsgb.org.uk with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.8.7.5.R) for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:48:38 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:48:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: LF: Antennas/ERP Message-ID: <3A966A34.20886.B598D6@localhost> In-reply-to: <7583.200102231227@gemini> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Return-Path: miked@mail Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: On 23 Feb 2001, at 12:32, James Moritz wrote: > A decrease in current from 2.7 to 2.2A would result in FS > decreasing by 1.8dB if the antenna remained the same. So overall, > there was an improvement of 2.7dB from the radiating point of > view, although offset by increased losses, apparently. If ways > could be found of reducing these added losses in a practical way, > this would be a significant improvement in LF antenna technique. My next plan is to take my 'old' low-loss Litz wound 3mH top loading coil and insert some ferrite into it so that the L is increased to the 7mH required for self-resonance. The tricky bit will be getting the right type of ferrite, so that it has low loss and light weight. Any ideas? The coil I have now at the top of the mast was increased to 11mH by adding quite a small amount of ferrite made up from bits of pot cores used for audio filters, so I know it can be done. These bits of ferrite were used when operating on 73kHz and got very slightly warm with 200W RF. As for using increased RF power as an alternative to improving the antenna, this is a matter of choice, but I prefer to do both as it will take a huge amount of power to get me close to 1W with my relatively small antenna (700W RF to get 140mW ERP = a gain of about minus 37dB). Even with my present top loading I still need to run 5kW to exceed 1W ERP. Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT) http://www.lf.thersgb.net