Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15179 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 22:06:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 22:06:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 23080 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2001 22:07:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 21 Feb 2001 22:07:01 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14VhJd-00087L-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:00:53 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.89]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14VhJc-00087G-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:00:52 +0000 Received: from alg.demon.co.uk ([194.222.171.80]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14VhJL-000Ima-0V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:00:35 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <3A943B17.44A88E16@alg.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:03:03 +0000 From: "Steve Rawlings" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en-gb]C-CCK-MCD NetscapeOnline.co.uk (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Splitting the reflector. References: <65AECDF1F89AD411900400508BFC869F0D75DC@pdw-mail-1.dera.gov.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Talbot Andrew wrote: > I think it rather sad and a sorry state of affairs for amateur radio > that there are people out there who may not be interested in the > technical side and presumably just want to be appliance operators. Although I would not want to watch computer screens for hour after hour either, I think that it is wrong to refer to the QRSS/data mode fraternity as appliance operators. Even though most of the functions end up being under computer control, quite a bit of technical know-how is required to download the software; connect the boxes together; and then figure out if a message has been sent, and, if so, what it means; and who sent it. > How about, instead, the word OPER in the subject so we don't have to > bother with the who-heard-who messages. I too have been puzzled why QRSSers often refer to morse characters as being 'heard' when they are in fact 'seen' on a computer screen. But I do agree that we're all getting a bit fed up with the dozens of such 'who-heard-who' messages relating to transatlantic QRSS signals - especially when so little communication is being achieved. > I thought we were all supposed to be experimenters by virtue of > the amateur licence I agree. Let us return to the virtue of 'self-training in radio communication' - with particular emphasis on _communication_. Oh yes (I almost forgot), if anyone is maintaining a tally chart: I would prefer that this group of LF enthusiasts did not split. (It's so much fun the way it is.) Regards to all, Steve GW4ALG