Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4013 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2001 17:07:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by extortion.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Jan 2001 17:07:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 28085 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2001 17:10:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 25 Jan 2001 17:10:26 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14Lplc-0006Wh-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 17:01:00 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from [213.2.16.106] (helo=rsgb.org.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14Lplb-0006Wc-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 17:01:00 +0000 Received: from miked by rsgb.org.uk with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.8.7.5.R) for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:55:44 +0000 From: "Mike Dennison" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:55:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: LF: Stability Message-ID: <3A705A8D.30923.1ADD2FA@localhost> In-reply-to: <3.0.1.16.20010125131014.405704d0@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> References: <3A70030D.8045.580470@localhost> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Return-Path: miked@mail.rsgbhq Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: > At 10:42 25/01/01 -0000, G3XDV wrote: > >I am now using my IC-706 directly on 136kHz, with a pre-amp/filter > >and this works fine. > what antenna are you using for receiving ? > I'm using my transmitting antenna and found that I can add up to 40dB > attenuation between antenna and RX (Kenwood TS440) before the > bandnoise hits the RX noisefloor. I have 20dB attenuation all the time > to prevent DCF39 from overloading the RX input (and causing IM > products). I tried some preamps in my 'early days' on 136 but found > them only a source of aditional IM products. I use my normal Tx inverted-L for receiving most of the time. I think you are suggesting that I will have an overload problem with the IC- 706. In fact, this receiver is =very= insensitive at LF and must have a pre-amp to be of any use at all. I am using a pre-amp I bought at the RSGB HF Convention (I think designed by Dave, G3YXM?) and this has some very good front end tuned circuits. There is no sign of spurius responses. When using the very sensitive Datong converter, I certainly needed to attenuate the input to avoid overload, and my loop antenna worked into it without any additional amplification. Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT) http://www.lf.thersgb.net