Return-Path: Received: (qmail 337 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2001 10:44:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by extortion.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Jan 2001 10:44:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 15791 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2001 10:47:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 9 Jan 2001 10:47:16 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14FwDe-0002bQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2001 10:41:34 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from mail.sitestar.net ([205.160.234.10] helo=mail.neocom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14FwDc-0002bL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2001 10:41:32 +0000 Received: from sitestar.net (reston-gnap-ip-216012-95.dynamic.ziplink.net [216.8.12.95]) by mail.neocom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA26636 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 05:41:21 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <3A5AEACE.FB9B17B4@sitestar.net> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 05:41:18 -0500 From: "Rye Gewalt" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Bonfires (and wet wood) References: <133.200101081426@gemini> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: I seem to recall that the old timers (I'm one myself now) used to boil dry wood in paraffin to make insulators for open wire feeders. I think this makes sense. But, of course, if it did catch fire I would burn really well. Just a thought.... As a sail boat owner, I know how easily water can get under varnish and never leave -- while the wood discolors and rots. If one were to varnish wood that's going to be exposed to the outdoors, a marine varnish might make good sense as it has ultraviolet inhibitors to keep the sun from eating it up. I use a marine varnish called Sikkens (?) from Europe that really stands up to the weather. Rye Gewalt K9LCJ Springfield, Virginia James Moritz wrote: > Dear Dave, LF Group, > > Sorry to hear about G3YXM's slight overheating problem. This type > of thing is certainly a hazard with LF - I expect most people have > their tales to tell. It is one reason why I don't leave my station > running in beacon mode while I sleep; it is also a good reason for > having the loading coil located away from the house. > > I have found that the biggest problem comes from damp timber. If in > a high voltage field, the losses are rather high, so it gets hot. Little > white arcs form on the surface of the wood, and wander around in > a fascinating way, leaving charred trails, and setting fire to things. > It is very impressive at night. Paradoxically, dry wood seems to be > much less prone to this. During the summer, I made a shelter for > my loading coil from 47 x 47 mm preservative treated timber > covered with plastic sheet. This doubled the loss resistance of the > antenna, and it was obvious that the wood had a high moisture > content. Replacing the original wood with thinner, kiln-dried stuff > solved the loss problem. Then the plastic sheet developed a leak, > one piece of timber got wet, and the result was a minor fire - luckily > I caught it early. The rebuilt shelter uses heavier polythene > sheeting which is more carefully sealed, and has stood up well to > the wind and rain of the last few months (fingers crossed!). The > high voltage antenna connection passes via a ceramic feed- > through mounted in the middle of a rigid plastic sheet which forms > the roof. The feed-through by itself did not have adequate > insulation. I have also installed a cheap 1kW fan heater, so the > whole lot can be dried out from time to time. I think thoroughly > varnishing the wood woud help a lot, but this is a job for next > summer. > > I would certainly be interested to hear of a material for making > loading coil shelters which is at the same time fireproof, a good > dielectric, and easily worked. > > Hope you are back on air soon, Dave, > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU