Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma03.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA031-8b94913894038e; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:18:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA073-8b94913894038e; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:18:10 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KyF2Q-0001E6-Qj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:17:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KyF2P-0001Dx-Um for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:17:21 +0000 Received: from web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.128]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KyF2P-0003Bu-Nv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:17:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 94525 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Nov 2008 00:17:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=sBSBYpvKdypoDOHbXasHA6qplyw9rEeNrCoHgMIvWJp+Q/zQmbcjDAVD+I9pEiH+9w0D29+SVqbpNvJ//fw+xpecQfqgcHNvcDLGm8DaOS4jElQ7qwL63nPXdrIIbHcIKMow0+8NlDLu79RwcRpVex/q+8kNCawYDO6m+w6Hpig=; X-YMail-OSG: llDsfQcVM1n8XEBD3B1czERZjZ_J3nbXQoIx0iyF95BUSedBboLuCAtFdVXXqxJB1PygDDdbyYL3Y.GSyvz9Ii.9R.Ij97Nc9FcIEgqdqYogkAJpSdUNY.v8WEO_jIStqKtH3OtVgJMV46EcshR5jtZHXQVapWT1d18WLHS8a.FueY4- Received: from [86.130.57.141] by web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:17:15 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 00:17:15 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <20081106221146.kmjhdmwut8g0wssk@webmail4.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <391646.94239.qm@web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-705892427-1226017035=:94239" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --0-705892427-1226017035=:94239 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Rik I think I heard you call but you didn't hear me reply. Yes it was me=20= calling CQ ON, =C2=A0I am glad that much got through. There appeared to be s= ome deep QSB on Mal and GW3UEP who I called with no result. QRN was also hea= vy so not a good night to make the trip. I will do a calling and listening w= atch same time tomorrow.=20 =C2=A0 Good Luck and 73 petefmt --- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe wrote: From: Rik Strobbe Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house! To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 9:11 PM Pete, I guess I heard bits and pieces of your signal. A bit later I heard someone calling CQ ON but couldn't get a call. But QRN is terrible and propagation seems poor, G3KEV and the DI =20 beaccons were weaker than usual. If it keeps dry I'll give it another try tomorrow. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting M0FMT : > Ok Rik I will be lurking on the band I am xtal controlled on 502.3. > =C2=A0 > 73 petefmt > > --- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe wrote: > > From: Rik Strobbe > Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house! > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 4:10 PM > > > If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (19-21 UT) > > 73, Rik=C2=A0 ON7YD - OR7T > > At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wrote: > > Hi Rik and LF > =C2=A0 > Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise. =20 > You would think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this =20 > earlier. You were dead right The noise was coming from a DVD player =20 > that was on the face of it switched off. Using a small MW radio =20 > proved otherwise. I have to pull the plug out of the wall to shut it =20 > up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!! > =C2=A0 > Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that QSO. > =C2=A0 > 73 petefmt > =C2=A0 > > > --- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe wrote: > > > From: Rik Strobbe > > Subject: Re: LF: 500 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM > > > > Hello Pete, > > > I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own > house. > > A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just > one of > > these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise. > > I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the > medium wave > > band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite > antenna to take > > null bearings. > > After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear > ones > > noise was down by 10's of dB. > > Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them > the same > > way. > > > 73, Rik=C2=A0 ON7YD - OR7T > > > > Quoting M0FMT : > > >> Hi Mal and LF > >> =C2=A0 > >> I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old > story > > here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing > other=C2=A0 than local > > signals. > >> =C2=A0 > >> I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had > a=C2=A0 Kenwood > > TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about=C2=A0 every > thing on > > 500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density=C2=A0 area apart > from a neighbour > > either side the nearest other is about=C2=A0 1/4mile away but I do > have 11kV at the > > bottom of the garden which to=C2=A0 date has not been a problem. So I > suspect an > > insulator but the noise=C2=A0 is not general it is not affecting HF > at the moment. > >> =C2=A0 > >> I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I > am=C2=A0 playing > > with at the moment but so far no real improvement. > >> =C2=A0 > >> Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem. > >> =C2=A0 > >> Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly. > >> =C2=A0 > >> 73 petefmt > >> =C2=A0 > >> > >> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton > wrote: > >> > >> From: mal hamilton > >> Subject: Re: LF: 500 > >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > >> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM > >> > >> > >> =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF > >> > >> > >> Peter > >> Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out. > >> Mal/g3kev > >> =C2=A0 > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: M0FMT > >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > >> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM > >> Subject: Re: LF: 500 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> =C2=A0 > >> =C2=A0 > >> Nice one Warren .... :)) > >> =C2=A0 > >> Sorry Mal. > >> =C2=A0 > >> 73 Petefmt > >> > >> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler > wrote: > >> > >> From: Warren Ziegler > >> Subject: Re: LF: 500 > >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > >> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM > >> > >> Mal, > >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 You have a gas powered TX? > >> 73 K2ORS > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton > > >> wrote: > >>> Hi > >>> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up > gas !! now > > CQ > >> for > >>> a qso on 502.6 > >>> de g3kev > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> 73 Warren K2ORS > > >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 > WD2XGJ > > >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 > WD2XSH/23 > > >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 > WE2XEB/2 > > >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 > WE2XGR/1 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG - > http://www.avg.com > >> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1763 - Release > Date:=C2=A0 11/2/2008 > > 7:08 PM > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Disclaimer: > > http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm for =20 > more information. > > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm =20 --0-705892427-1226017035=:94239 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok Rik I think I heard you call but you di= dn't hear me reply. Yes it was me calling CQ ON,  I am glad that much g= ot through. There appeared to be some deep QSB on Mal and GW3UEP who I calle= d with no result. QRN was also heavy so not a good night to make the trip. I= will do a calling and listening watch same time tomorrow.
 
Good Luck and 73 petefmt


--- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kule= uven.be> wrote:
From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!
To: rsgb_lf_gro= up@blacksheep.org
Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 9:11 PM

P=
ete,

I guess I heard bits and pieces of your signal.
A bit later I heard someone calling CQ ON but couldn't get a call.
But QRN is terrible and propagation seems poor, G3KEV and the DI =20
beaccons were weaker than usual.

If it keeps dry I'll give it another try tomorrow.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:

> Ok Rik I will be lurking on the band I am xtal controlled on 502.3.
>  
> 73 petefmt
>
> --- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
wrote:
>
> From: Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 4:10 PM
>
>
> If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (19-21 UT)
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
> At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wrote:
>
> Hi Rik and LF
>  
> Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise.  =20
> You would think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this  =20
> earlier. You were dead right The noise was coming from a DVD player  =20
> that was on the face of it switched off. Using a small MW radio  =20
> proved otherwise. I have to pull the plug out of the wall to shut it =20
>  up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!!
>  
> Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that QSO=
.
>  
> 73 petefmt
>  
>
>
> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
wrote:
>
>
> From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
>
> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM
>
>
>
> Hello Pete,
>
>
> I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own
> house.
>
> A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just
> one of
>
> these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.
>
> I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the
> medium wave
>
> band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite
> antenna to take
>
> null bearings.
>
> After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear
> ones
>
> noise was down by 10's of dB.
>
> Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them
> the same
>
> way.
>
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
>
>
>
> Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:
>
>
>> Hi Mal and LF
>
>>  
>
>> I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old
> story
>
> here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing
> other  than local
>
> signals.
>
>>  
>
>> I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had
> a  Kenwood
>
> TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about  every
> thing on
>
> 500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density  area apart
> from a neighbour
>
> either side the nearest other is about  1/4mile away but I do
> have 11kV at the
>
> bottom of the garden which to  date has not been a problem. So I
> suspect an
>
> insulator but the noise  is not general it is not affecting HF
> at the moment.
>
>>  
>
>> I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I
> am  playing
>
> with at the moment but so far no real improvement.
>
>>  
>
>> Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem.
>
>>  
>
>> Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.
>
>>  
>
>> 73 petefmt
>
>>  
>
>>
>
>> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>
>> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>
>> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
>> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Peter
>
>> Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out.
>
>> Mal/g3kev
>
>>  
>
>>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>
>> From: M0FMT
>
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM
>
>> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>  
>
>>  
>
>> Nice one Warren .... :))
>
>>  
>
>> Sorry Mal.
>
>>  
>
>> 73 Petefmt
>
>>
>
>> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>
>> From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>
>> Subject: Re: LF: 500
>
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>
>> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM
>
>>
>
>> Mal,
>
>>       You have a gas powered TX?
>
>> 73 K2ORS
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton
> <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>
>> wrote:
>
>>> Hi
>
>>> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up
> gas !! now
>
> CQ
>
>> for
>
>>> a qso on 502.6
>
>>> de g3kev
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> --
>
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>
>
>>            &=
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>
>
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>
>>            &=
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>
>
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>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>
>> Checked by AVG -
> http://www.avg.com
>
>> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1763 - Release
> Date:  11/2/2008
>
> 7:08 PM
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