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Peter Bowyer wrote:

> I don't normally post here, but....
>
> G3KEV wrote :-
>
> > Secondary any other  mode that one cares to use with their own antenna and
> > commercial antenna farms are totally non amateur radio.
>
> Why so intolerant? The Decca experimentors are radio amateurs, taking
> advantage of the unique availability of some ex-commercial equipment to push
> further the boundaries in this area. Come on, there's room for all here?
> Nobody says you have to join in if you don't want to.
>
> If no radio amateur had ever used any ex-commercial equipment the hobby
> would be somewhat poorer, I think.
>
> > How can anyone claim any
> > credit/achievement  using a commercial antenna system and data systems
> that need
> > chip rate detectors controlled by computers
>
> Personally I take my hat off to the skill and knowledge of the likes of
> G4JNT - again, the envelope is being pushed in another fascinating
> direction. And again, if *you* don't want to do it, be our guest and don't.
> There's room for all.

I am glad Peter that you have joined the debate and I know that you have to be
impartial at all times.
I owned and was the Sysop of GB7KEV  a NTS bbs on the East Coast for 8 years.
The volume of traffic at its peak was in excess of 1200 messages each week, a
little more than appears on this medium, so I do know the position.
I give all credit to those that are trying to cross frontiers but why single out
one particular person.
For instance you forgot to mention MM0ALM who has the most potent signal
eminating from the UK. He has constructed everything in his shack except perhaps
his RX and engineered his antenna farm which includes a number of tower in
excess of 130 feet. That is real amateur involvement and dedication, and he is
not associated in any way with the electronics industry, and does not have
University, Government agencies, or Commercial R and D support.
By their own admission some of the radio amateur contributers to the reflector
and participants on LF are using Professional facilities and sophisticated
equipment borrowed from their employers to achieve the object.
I cannot comment about the person above that you mentioned because I have not
heard any signals from him so far on LF, perhaps he is working underground.
I can only state my own position by saying that as far as I know, I am the only
one to work and have confirmed 19 countries on 136 khz two way plus 2 xband to
Spain and Channel Is. with my signal on 136 khz. I have swl reports from 4 other
countries excluding the above.
We need proof of achievements and not speculation.
G3KEV


>
>
> Peter G4MJS
> Reflector Keeper - blacksheep.org