Return-Path: Received: from mtain-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.85]) by air-di01.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDI014-eab94c91522b1d1; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 19:09:31 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (unknown [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 07A96380000A4; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 19:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ow14f-0001f9-FJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:07:33 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ow14V-0001f0-4I for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:07:23 +0100 Received: from mhost02c.leeds.ac.uk ([129.11.76.154]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ow14U-0008OD-JJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:07:24 +0100 Received: from APOLLO2.ds.leeds.ac.uk (apollo2.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.5.5]) by mhost02c.leeds.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8FN7GAc029136 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:07:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from HERMES8.ds.leeds.ac.uk ([fe80::c078:16b5:73cf:6fbc]) by APOLLO2.ds.leeds.ac.uk ([129.11.5.5]) with mapi; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:07:16 +0100 From: Chris Trayner To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:07:15 +0100 Thread-Topic: LF: Ae rigger 'job' anyone Thread-Index: ActVIQ3nwk+rjwMIQs2xw3t459jheAABfHYD Message-ID: <38F4A9873A5B474DB6FB337B1B69ABA162F30A8BC9@HERMES8.ds.leeds.ac.uk> References: <1284586971.15013.13.camel@pat-compaq-evo>,<4C914089.8050309@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C914089.8050309@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-GB X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: RE: LF: Ae rigger 'job' anyone Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40554c915229691b X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Subject: Re: LF: Ae rigger 'job' anyone > Well, he broke so many rules that I wouldn't climb with him even on the > smaller towers I've done here in the UK ! Hmmm ... not so sure. He described it as free climbing. Comparing it with free climbing in the= UK (and the States, before anyone suggests I'm belittling their climbers)= , - Free climbing is without ropes. Ropes are for wimps. (Or those who feel= answerable to St Peter at the Gates.) - The handholds were 10cms or more long. Normal (rock) climbing has holds= 10mm long if you are lucky. On Yorkshire gritstone the typical hold is a= rounded top of a climb with carefully judged friction to keep you from Mr= Newton's Ministrations. NB - in line with English tradition, it has proba= bly been raining to provide suitable lubrication to said gritstone. I'm su= re other nations have rockfaces to rival the health-and-safety qualities= of ours. At least the climber in the video had the good grace to use his krab in su= ch a way as to render it probably useless, depending on the direction in= which (s)he chose to fall. But the views from the top were nice. There we= re no comments, though, on the people who put those aerial structures up= there in the first place: did they have proper safety, or did they drill= Rawlplugs into the surrounding clouds? If you're still not convinced, try looking at photos of climbing in Yosemi= te. 73, Chris 'OKW