Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10044 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2000 16:01:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by grants.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 18 Jan 2000 16:01:11 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12Aaug-0001Jy-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:51:22 +0000 Received: from mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk ([194.200.20.13]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12Aauc-0001Js-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:51:19 +0000 Received: from [195.44.222.140] (helo=netscapeonline.co.uk) by mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12AauV-0005qv-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:51:12 +0000 Message-ID: <3884B637.B589F9CE@netscapeonline.co.uk> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:51:35 -0800 From: "g3kev" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Organization: Netscape Online member X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en-gb]C-CCK-MCD NetscapeOnline.co.uk (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Men and boys References: <3.0.1.16.20000118113515.2d2fe45e@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Rik Strobbe wrote: > There is so much more needed to built a BIG vertical than just the will to > do it. A stable big vertical tower costs a lot of money (at least they're > not for free in Belgium), the authorities need a to give you permission to > built it and also your family and neighbourgs must agree (unless you play > 'I am alone on the world' and don't care about others). > So a lot of us (I even dare to say most of us) will have to live as 'boys' > on LF and probably never will become 'men'. But this does not mean that we > have no chances to work nice 'DX'. First of all there is the 1 Watt ERP > level that limits the possibilities of the 'men' (unless they don't care > about the law) and further there is more needed than a BIG antenna to be > succesfull on LF. Good operating skills and knowledge of the propagation > are important too. A good point Rik. Could you please arrange some MORSE lessons on air. There seems to be a lot of RUSTY operators about on LF and also arrange some DX at over 3000 K/metres to come on the air so that we can study propogation. At present the distances amongst us are too close and we have all worked each other several times over. Anything up to around 2000 K/metres has become the the normal (old hat) and certainly not DX. > > At my QTH I will never get a permission (from the authorities) to built a > tower higher than about 60 ft. Furthermore I live in a forrested area what > causes rather high losses, I need about 450W of HF to pump 1.9A into my > antenna. These are restrictions I have to live with, and with this limits I > will try to get the best signal in the air and keep experimenting to > improve the antenna. But I (and my family) do like our house and the > surrounding very much, so I do not intend to sell the house and move to > another place just to become a 'men'. > But even with my 'boy-antenna' I managed to work over 70 stations in 17 > countries and up to 1700km away. Others (eg. G3XDV, G4GVC) managed to get > similar results with rather limited antennas. > > 73, Rik ON7YD