Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8850 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2000 04:14:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by bells.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 13 Jan 2000 04:14:38 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 128bSr-00023c-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 04:02:25 +0000 Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net ([199.45.39.156]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 128bSo-00023X-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 04:02:22 +0000 Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-151-200-120-172.bellatlantic.net [151.200.120.172]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA09702; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:02:03 -0500 (EST) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Message-ID: <387D4E01.67B44A15@bellatlantic.net> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:01:06 -0500 From: "Andre' Kesteloot" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "rsgb_lf_group" , "Gentges K0BRA, Frank" Subject: LF: A 36-inch Ferrite Loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net id XAA09702 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: In reference to recent postings on this reflector regarding receiving loops, the following article by Frank Gentges which appeared in the current issue of the AMRAD Newsletter, may be of interest. 73 Andre' N4ICK *************************** Making a Carbonyl Iron Rod RF magnetics are made from either powdered iron or ferrite. Raw ferrite powder is not suitable for RF magnetics as it needs to be fired in a kiln using special recipes to convert the raw material into the RF magnetics we are familiar with. Raw powdered iron is mixed with some binder matrix and pressed under high pressure (50,000 psi) into a mold to make RF magnetics-like cup cores, toroid cores and rods we are seeing from places like Amidon. The powdered iron used in these applications is made with the carbonyl process where the iron particles are precipitated out in very small sizes around 1 micron. In addition the process can coat the individual particles with a non-conducting iron compound. This coating limits particle-to-particle conduction, which could lead to large eddy currents much as a solid piece of iron would have. This iron powder is called carbonyl iron powder. It is made for several uses. It is made, of course, for RF magnetic devices. Also it has been used in copy machines as "developer" where the powder coats a magnetic rod and acts as a very soft brush to clean toner from a photo drum surface. Here it is just a soft brush held together with a magnetic field. Carbonyl iron can also be pressed into objects and fired at high temperatures into solid objects where the individual particles fuse into a sold piece in a sintering process. Long powdered iron or ferrite rods of over a foot could provide high sensitivity LF loopstick antennas. However, there is limited demand and the costs can exceed a thousand dollars for a rod of 2 feet. The obvious question is whether one could make a rod at home. We looked at this and selected carbonyl iron over ferrite because it could all be done at room temperature. Pressing the carbonyl iron at 50000 psi is somewhat impractical at home so instead, a PVC pipe was filled with the carbonyl iron powder and it showed improvement over an equivalent air core coil at LF. The powder was made by GAF and is called "IRON POWDER C". This powder was obtained some 15 years ago on another project and enough left over for this job. A 16-inch piece of 1-inch schedule 40 PVC pipe was capped on one end with a PVC cap and the PVC cement. A portion of the powder was poured into the pipe and tamped with a broomstick using a hammer to compress it and force out the air. This force was much less that the 50,000 pounds of pressure used in industry. Repeated pouring and tamping eventually filled the pipe full. When full the other end was capped. This worked well in antenna tests so a 36- inch piece of 1-inch pipe was filled. This worked even better as a LOWFer receiving antenna. It was wound and a piece of aluminum flashing was put around it as a shield. The whole assembly was put into a larger 2-inch piece of schedule 40 PVC pipe and capped to seal it for outdoor use. This powder is very fine and seems to go places you don't intend and you will get dirty doing this so use old clothes and be prepared to shower after filling. After capping the pipe can be cleaned and be ready for winding. Iron powder can react with moisture and turn to rust, which will degrade the RF performance so if the end caps fully seal the rod can be used for years. The type C powder used is not a high permeability material and when in a rod configuration the overall inductance of a coil will not dramatically increase over a similar air wound one. You may only see an increase of two- or three-fold but this is to be expected. Sources for the powder are limited since most powder suitable for this rod is sold to large manufacturers of powdered iron components. GAF seems to be in the roofing business and their web page at www.gaf.com does not indicate other products. Hopefully we can find sources of the powder in less than carload lots for amateur LF use. A second article will cover the electrical design and use of the carbonyl iron antenna. Frank Gentges, KØBRA