Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28700 invoked from network); 16 Dec 1999 19:31:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by 212.159.2.33 with SMTP; 16 Dec 1999 19:31:30 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11yh3A-00060x-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 19:58:56 +0000 Received: from mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk ([194.200.20.13]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11yh38-00060s-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 19:58:54 +0000 Received: from userao69.netscapeonline.co.uk ([62.125.133.186] helo=netscapeonline.co.uk) by mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11ygXu-00039v-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 19:26:39 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Message-ID: <38593BAA.C0302AD5@netscapeonline.co.uk> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 19:21:15 +0000 From: "malcolmg3kev" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Organization: Netscape Online member X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en-gb]C-CCK-MCD NetscapeOnline.co.uk (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: getting permission OK References: <383CEEAC.71F1E02F@club-internet.fr> <012501bf43e5$dcf0bec0$0600a8c0@main> <3854B5A4.E96DBDFC@club-internet.fr> <003801bf45a2$bd0fa1c0$0600a8c0@main> <3858FDF5.754B0F11@club-internet.fr> <003c01bf47e1$95899a20$2301a8c0@maly.gmc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi Petr. I had a similar experience in Canada. I phoned the Telecoms Dept in Vancouver and asked what the procedure was for getting a recipocal licence. The Inspector said JUST go ahead and transmit. When I enquired about a visit to the Telecoms Office to confirm my valid G3KEV and VS6HI licence, he said it was not necessary hi - JUST GO AHEAD AND TRANSMIT ETC . I did what he said and never had a problem hi. In contrast to get a Singapore licence you had to be sworn in by a Magistrate and take an oath of allegiance to the Singapore Government besides having the appropriate qualifications, over the border in Malaya is was totally relaxed and no formalities were required except to have the qualifications. The French connection looks tricky. 73 de Mal/G3KEV/9V1OY/9M2CC Petr Maly wrote: > Hello Lowfers > Nice story, isn't it. I can tell my own. In spring this year I called to CTU > (PTT) to get permission for transmitting on 136 kHz. The YL on the other > side told me that she is very, very busy and that I would have best to call > again in autumn. But I did not give up and I called her again and again. At > last, to get rid of me, she said something like: "OK then, transmit there > and don't bother me any longer". That's all my permission. I have nothing > written in my hand till now. I even don't know till now what one must comply > with to get permission in OK. No one knows. Maybe, my transmission is > illegal and all my "firsts" will be cancelled. Who knows... > > 73, Petr, OK1FIG > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: M & S > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 3:58 PM > Subject: LF: French update > > > Hello all, > > > > I've just had a long conversation with the guy who's responsible for the > > Amateur Service here in France, at the ministry of telecommunications. > > > > The situation is more complicated than I previously announced. In fact, > > the ART (French equivelant of OFTEL) has made several demands towards > > the Agence Nationale des Frequences (French equivalent of the RA) > > regarding the use of the 136 kHz band in France by amateurs. > > > > I phoned the ANF, and nobody there seemed to know what I was talking > about! > > > > Well, I'm one of those "bad" journalists who never give up: I gave a > > call to the ministry. The minister didn't want to speak to me so they > > connected me to the press service. Again, nobody was able to understand > > a word about what I was talking about (are we lowfers so bizarre?). > > > > Finally, after five phone calls, around eight or nine different > > services, fifteen or so different people and twenty-five times > > explaining the same thing, I managed to get a short piece of information > > from an official source. > > > > Read this: "the 136 kHz band will definately be allocated to the amateur > > service in France. I'm surprised that so many european countries are > > already active. However, our request has been published. All we need now > > is a signature from the Prime Minister. He does have the papers on his > > desk since a couple of months. The question is, how many papers have > > been loaded on top of the 136 kHz file..." > > > > So, 136 in France can be authorised tomorrow, like it can be authorised > > in December 2000. However, we're quite sure right now that it will be > > authorised whatsoever. > > > > Wait and see. > > > > 73, Mark, F6JSZ > > Editor, French CQ > >