Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28584 invoked from network); 15 Sep 1999 03:23:37 -0000 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by murphys.force9.net with SMTP; 15 Sep 1999 03:23:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 19851 invoked from network); 14 Sep 1999 21:29:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 14 Sep 1999 21:29:00 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11QzpZ-00041G-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 22:09:37 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([203.96.92.3]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11QzpX-000406-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 22:09:35 +0100 Received: from [203.96.108.9] by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19990914211053.YLEG2478302.mta2-rme@[203.96.108.9]> for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:10:53 +1200 Message-ID: <37DEA9DD.62B8@xtra.co.nz> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 08:02:37 +1200 From: "vernall" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-XTRA (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Advice on Antenna. References: <3.0.1.16.19990914095618.30d79f90@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Rik Strobbe wrote: > > Hi Des, > > In his mail Geri, DK8KW, has given a very good description of what to do. > I would like just to add 2 options : > > 1. If it is mechanically possible you might gain some dB's by placing the > loading coil (or at least a part of it) at the top of the vertical section. > Especially with a rather small top-hat as you described this will increase > the effeciency of the antenna. I believe that G3XDV has some experience > with it. True in theory but often difficult mechanically. The lower the loss in a given loading coil, the bigger and heavier it generally becomes. Some of the dBs can be "won back" by having a very well designed loading coil in a conventional ground mounted enclosure. Observations of aeronautical non-directional beacon (NDB) T antennas generally shows that none use loading coils "up in the air". > 2. Having several parallel wires in the top-hat will increase the antenna > capacitance and is in some cases mechanicaly simple to implement. I use an > inverted-L antenna with a 13m high vertical section and a 26m long > horizontal section that consists of 4 parallel wires each 0.8m separated. Spacing at 0.8 metres is a good choice. Proximity effect progressively reduces effectiveness of parallel spaced wires as they are brought closer together. When wires are very close, they are similar in capacitance to ground as one fatter wire! For top loading, the "first wire in" is always the most effective, but suitably spaced parallel top loading wires would probably improve every T or inverted-L antenna at LF. I have intended to try a further variant, using a "second droopy wire" below each existing top loading wire, and terminating on the same insulators. This seems to be a "cheap and easy" method. If a second wire is a few centimetres longer, it will naturally droop below the first one. This would reduce the effective height above ground, so there could be a trade-off between moderately higher capacitance but at moderately lower effective height. As the first wire takes most of the tension, the second wire could be a thinner one. It could also tangle with the first wire in windy conditions! But as I said, I have not yet trialed this idea, so I can not say it is proved to be worth doing. Regards, Bob ZL2CA