Return-Path: Received: (qmail 844 invoked from network); 11 Mar 1999 07:53:02 -0000 Received: from magnet.plus.net.uk (HELO magnet.force9.net) (195.166.128.26) by medusa.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 11 Mar 1999 07:53:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 22929 invoked from network); 11 Mar 1999 07:55:33 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (194.75.130.70) by magnet.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 11 Mar 1999 07:55:33 -0000 Received: from troy.blacksheep.org ([194.75.183.50] ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10L0FD-0006HO-01; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 07:51:03 +0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA00174 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 07:47:17 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (root@post.unica.co.uk [194.75.183.70]) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA00166 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 07:42:32 GMT Received: from bw85zhb.bluewin.ch ([195.186.1.75]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10L0AN-0006Dg-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 07:46:04 +0000 Received: from phonakcom.ch ([195.186.58.29]) by bw85zhb.bluewin.ch ( with ESMTP id AAA4301 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 08:42:11 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <36E775F8.2C931698@phonakcom.ch> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 08:51:20 +0100 From: "Toni Baertschi" Organization: Phonak Communications AG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Additional Info abt 73/136 QSO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >From HB9ASB, JN36pt Hello Peter and the Group I'm really amazed how good the helical works on 73kHz. I've tried also two other antennas while Peter, G3LDO, called me. The first is a tuned loop nailed on the wall of my shack, 16 turns with about 2m diameter and oriented north-south. The second is an untuned active Loop, away from the house in a garden shelter. It has about the same diameter and orientation. The loop in the shack was useless. It picks up too many RF from my computer, but I could see Peter's signal on the loop in the garden. Not as good as on the helical, but with the advantage that I could receive on 73 during my transmission on 136khz without any disturbances - full duplex! I also have to say, that the 73khz Band is very quiet here. There is no Luxembourg - Effect as on 136. The receiver was the Harris RF590. The AF goes trough the Timewave DSP599 where I use it's noise reduction algorithm before feeding the sound card of the computer. This gives a considerable additional noise reduction! So far I've tried different receivers for the LF work, besides some brands of commercial receivers also amateur equipment. The problem with many amateur transceivers is, that they have a built in attenuation pad for the LF/MF range, so they are quite deaf down there. If you're not living in proximity of a MF/LF broadcast station you don't need this attenuator. It's easy to locate on the schematic diagram. It's often right in front of the LF/MF low pass filter and I've eliminated it in different "Yen Boxes" without any problem. 73 de Toni