Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id sBEGcitM014670 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 17:38:44 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Y0C61-0000Jb-JA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:32:37 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Y0C61-0000JS-7C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:32:37 +0000 Received: from rgout01.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk ([65.20.0.178]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0C5z-0006ra-75 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:32:36 +0000 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A090204.548DBBA1.00AE,ss=1,re=0.001,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=38/50,refid=2.7.2:2014.12.7.160622:17:38.936,ip=81.155.177.209,rules=__HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, MSGID_32HEX_LC, INVALID_MSGID_NO_FQDN, __MSGID_32HEX, __HAS_FROM, __PHISH_FROM2, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __MIME_VERSION, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_MAILER, USER_AGENT_OE, __OUTLOOK_MUA_1, __USER_AGENT_MS_GENERIC, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_WWW, __URI_NO_PATH, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODY_SIZE_1500_1599, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, __URI_NS, SXL_IP_DYNAMIC[209.177.155.81.fur], HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, __PHISH_FROM, __OUTLOOK_MUA, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_1, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown Received: from gnat (81.155.177.209) by rgout01.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (8.6.122.06) (authenticated as alan.melia@btinternet.com) id 54822EC7010D0577; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:32:33 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=btcpcloud; t=1418574755; bh=yVpb4erXNEyLthYETDOhadOdz0ON2UDGzCOJq0l54VI=; h=Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:X-Mailer; b=demKe0zgSIHJEME6eydjuwV/SXiuO90F6owoE2X4MdPQv+g+xFYx1A5cD92JMhOAUxE/iXw8bZXGtoMCCP2szP/SCDyDTt8hFkmm/XrnkmDv72xiSCLhm226xC5SgHGCAs1Mn+YunEdKmTI6bMwnCsof95V7BfrCZho064ww6UQ= Message-ID: <36C84021D17B4EBDBE95B6BB0A9E45C7@gnat> From: "Alan Melia" To: , Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:31:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Scan-Signature: b77892ad90d0261eaf071f4f6cf31464 Subject: LF: Antenna Current meters Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1490 Hi all there has been discussion about Aerial Current measurement on many occassions in the past, and many have built versions of the "Clothes Peg" clip on ammeter. Dave Powis G4HUP announced a kit for an HF clip-on current meter in the December Radcom. After some prodding by me he has had a sample tested at 136 and 475kHz and as expected the instuments works well and sensitivity is flat from here up to 30MHz or more. The instructions include a simple calibration proceedure. Sensitivity down to 100mA FSD allows it to be used with low power systems where the use of a thermocouple RF meter is not posssible. Dave also produces a board intended to break out the IF signal from many standard tranceivers for input to an SDR dongle. These were intended to work in the IF frequency range and use SMD parts to give an add-in pcb little larger than a postage stamp. A look at the circuit shows that this is very similar to the circuit used by Roelof (mini-whip) and others for use in E-field antennas. I believe the coupling capacitors will need to be increased in size, but I believe Dave can produce these for LF to order, either as a kit or completed board. He has not yet had a chance to try this out at LF but it's a chance to experiment at little cost. Getting the receive antenna away from habitation and power wiring is a good move at VLF !. I have no pecunary interest but I admit that Dave is a good friend and ex work collegue, and an excellent engineer. Look at his web pages http://g4hup.com email g4hup@outlook.com Alan G3NYK