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Helo Stefan,



For info, here I am using a MFJ 834 RF Ammeter. It is working well on MF =
band, it just need to be first re-calibrate on MF band (only one =
variable resistance to adjust) using a low power signal into a 50 Ohms =
pure resistive load.



It is quite linear for RF current measurement from 25 mA to 3 Amperes, =
in 3 swiched scales.=20



Using it on the 50 Ohms coaxial cable, just after your TX output, you =
have a good estimation of your TX power output from 30 milli watt to 450 =
watts.



You can also use it on the cold end of the antenna side. Depending at =
the overall antenna system resistance, you can read the real antenna =
current=E2=80=A6



73 de Andy.


From: DK7FC=20
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:09 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Subject: LF: M0LMH

Hi MF,

Since a few hours i'm transmitting WSPR with the variable mains =
transformer turned to 0%. So just the driver is switching the FETs. =
Anyway a few mW TX power seem to be generated and radiated. I can see no =
reading on the RF amperemeter.
Anyway i got 15 spots:
      Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az=20
      2015-10-22 20:14  DK7FC  0.475685  -22  0  JN49ik  1  M0LMH  =
IO93gx  862  310 =20
      2015-10-22 20:24  DK7FC  0.475683  -19  0  JN49ik  1  F5WK  JN18hp =
 452  261 =20
      2015-10-22 20:44  DK7FC  0.475682  -21  0  JN49ik  1  PA0A  JO33de =
 449  339 =20
      2015-10-22 20:14  DK7FC  0.475682  -26  0  JN49ik  1  PA0RDT  =
JO11tm  428  305 =20
      2015-10-22 20:14  DK7FC  0.475683  -17  0  JN49ik  1  PA3ABK  =
JO21it  386  315 =20
      2015-10-22 20:14  DK7FC  0.475683  -15  0  JN49ik  1  DH5RAE  =
JN68qv  345  98 =20
      2015-10-22 20:14  DK7FC  0.475683  -18  0  JN49ik  1  PI4THT  =
JO32kf  336  338 =20
      2015-10-22 20:14  DK7FC  0.475683  -15  0  JN49ik  1  DJ0ABR  =
JN68nt  329  101 =20
      2015-10-22 20:14  DK7FC  0.475683  -22  0  JN49ik  1  DG8RW  =
JN69cv  257  77 =20
      2015-10-22 20:14  DK7FC  0.475682  -23  0  JN49ik  1  DF2JP  =
JO31hh  256  325 =20
      2015-10-22 20:54  DK7FC  0.475683  -27  1  JN49ik  1  DC0DX_H  =
JO31lk  255  332 =20
      2015-10-22 20:24  DK7FC  0.475684  -24  0  JN49ik  1  DB1EPO  =
JO31hg  252  325 =20
      2015-10-22 20:14  DK7FC  0.475684  -21  0  JN49ik  1  DF6NM  =
JN59nj  175  91 =20
      2015-10-22 20:14  DK7FC  0.475684  -7  0  JN49ik  1  DK2DB  JN48fw =
 58  198 =20
      2015-10-22 20:34  DK7FC  0.475686  -10  0  JN49ik  1  DF8UO  =
JN48ex  56  206 =20

M0LMH is the best distance. Also in daytime i can see that M0LMH is =
receiving me, often beeing the only one from UK.
Does someone know him and his equipment? Would be interesting to know! =
In IO93GX, there is not population. Certainly one reason for the good =
results...

73, Stefan

PS: Now QRO...

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resistance to adjust) using a low power signal into a 50 Ohms pure =
resistive=20
load.</FONT></P>
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face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
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is quite linear for RF current measurement from 25 mA to 3 Amperes, in 3 =
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face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" align=3Djustify><FONT =

face=3DArial>Using it on the 50 Ohms coaxial cable, just after your TX =
output, you=20
have a good estimation of your TX power output from 30 milli watt to 450 =

watts.</FONT></P>
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face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" align=3Djustify><FONT =

face=3DArial>You can also use it on the cold end of the antenna side. =
Depending at=20
the overall antenna system resistance, you can read the real antenna=20
current=E2=80=A6</FONT></P>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:09 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>=20
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> LF: M0LMH</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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DISPLAY: inline'>Hi=20
MF,<BR><BR>Since a few hours i'm transmitting WSPR with the variable =
mains=20
transformer turned to 0%. So just the driver is switching the FETs. =
Anyway a few=20
mW TX power seem to be generated and radiated. I can see no reading on =
the RF=20
amperemeter.<BR>Anyway i got 15 spots:<BR>
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  <TBODY>
  <TR>
    <TH>Timestamp</TH>
    <TH>Call</TH>
    <TH>MHz</TH>
    <TH>SNR</TH>
    <TH>Drift</TH>
    <TH>Grid</TH>
    <TH>Pwr</TH>
    <TH>Reporter</TH>
    <TH>RGrid</TH>
    <TH>km</TH>
    <TH>az</TH></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD align=3Dright>2015-10-22 20:14 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DK7FC </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0.475685 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>-22 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN49ik </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>1 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>M0LMH </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>IO93gx </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>862 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>310 </TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD align=3Dright>2015-10-22 20:24 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DK7FC </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0.475683 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>-19 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN49ik </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>1 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>F5WK </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN18hp </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>452 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>261 </TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD align=3Dright>2015-10-22 20:44 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DK7FC </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0.475682 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>-21 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN49ik </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>1 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>PA0A </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JO33de </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>449 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>339 </TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD align=3Dright>2015-10-22 20:14 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DK7FC </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0.475682 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>-26 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN49ik </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>1 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>PA0RDT </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JO11tm </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>428 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>305 </TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD align=3Dright>2015-10-22 20:14 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DK7FC </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0.475683 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>-17 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN49ik </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>1 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>PA3ABK </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JO21it </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>386 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>315 </TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD align=3Dright>2015-10-22 20:14 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DK7FC </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0.475683 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>-15 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN49ik </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>1 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DH5RAE </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN68qv </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>345 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>98 </TD></TR>
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    <TD align=3Dright>2015-10-22 20:14 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DK7FC </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0.475683 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>-18 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN49ik </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>1 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>PI4THT </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JO32kf </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>336 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>338 </TD></TR>
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    <TD align=3Dright>2015-10-22 20:14 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DK7FC </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0.475683 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>-15 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN49ik </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>1 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DJ0ABR </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN68nt </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>329 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>101 </TD></TR>
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    <TD align=3Dright>2015-10-22 20:14 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DK7FC </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0.475683 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>-22 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN49ik </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>1 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DG8RW </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN69cv </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>257 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>77 </TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD align=3Dright>2015-10-22 20:14 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DK7FC </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0.475682 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>-23 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN49ik </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>1 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DF2JP </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JO31hh </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>256 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>325 </TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD align=3Dright>2015-10-22 20:54 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DK7FC </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0.475683 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>-27 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>1 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN49ik </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>1 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DC0DX_H </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JO31lk </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>255 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>332 </TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD align=3Dright>2015-10-22 20:24 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DK7FC </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0.475684 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>-24 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN49ik </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>1 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DB1EPO </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JO31hg </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>252 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>325 </TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD align=3Dright>2015-10-22 20:14 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DK7FC </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0.475684 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>-21 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN49ik </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>1 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DF6NM </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN59nj </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>175 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>91 </TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD align=3Dright>2015-10-22 20:14 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DK7FC </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0.475684 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>-7 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN49ik </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>1 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DK2DB </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN48fw </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>58 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>198 </TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD align=3Dright>2015-10-22 20:34 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DK7FC </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0.475686 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>-10 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>0 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN49ik </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>1 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>DF8UO </TD>
    <TD align=3Dleft>JN48ex </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>56 </TD>
    <TD align=3Dright>206 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>M0LMH is the =
best distance.=20
Also in daytime i can see that M0LMH is receiving me, often beeing the =
only one=20
from UK.<BR>Does someone know him and his equipment? Would be =
interesting to=20
know! In IO93GX, there is not population. Certainly one reason for the =
good=20
results...<BR><BR>73, Stefan<BR><BR>PS: Now=20
QRO...<BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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