X-GM-THRID: 1237594984607714882 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.1 with SMTP id u1cs495894hue; Sun, 27 May 2007 14:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.29.12 with SMTP id g12mr4761319ugj.1180301776712; Sun, 27 May 2007 14:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id a1si4504120ugf.2007.05.27.14.36.13; Sun, 27 May 2007 14:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: good (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1HsQLW-0003Xu-Eb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 May 2007 22:32:14 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1HsQLV-0003Xl-ND for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 May 2007 22:32:13 +0100 Received: from web86408.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.125]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HsQLU-0000UE-Ml for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 May 2007 22:32:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 51425 invoked by uid 60001); 27 May 2007 21:32:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=cALkWOREmND0huFKhxQGHMvFAYC6e8wLXJyARZmBicglAfkzi2WZKTgAOcJSDUWGVV6YLMNL6yrstd5IN4ODNb+poWzQ8Pcw9Kkvx5GxAdsGbXePDdJXHlDZEvDLmuCWK9O91oKUlSC/Z8mGzmU8tDkSdYmdTDp6RHP2UcVBzVU=; X-YMail-OSG: mwNgeBoVM1mzaKGPOgygpSxXgZcxpBDFVEamcuBFwKSrOwLKjJ8m3QLCc3LYsojM54u3yF8hIy.zl98Xe3GVvVWHmJZp4EPZ5YQtQvx8UHjRe09e Received: from [80.6.40.58] by web86408.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 27 May 2007 22:32:07 BST Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:32:07 +0100 (BST) From: CHRISTOPHER OSBORN To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <007a01c7a09d$62b558b0$9d33f7c2@o> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <350520.49664.qm@web86408.mail.ird.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re; 502.4kcs 10am, XIZ/XAQ/PDN/KEV... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1961269190-1180301527=:49664" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7065 --0-1961269190-1180301527=:49664 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My apologies . . I have both vfo and xtal control (502.3 and 503.3) and can zero beat with my RIT. I sometimes forget to switch from XO to VFO - :-( In future I shall net on to the station I am calling to avoid difficulties. 73 Chris G3XIZ Gw3UEP wrote: Alan, Thanks for all info. Ray has 502.6 & 501.6 cc. Suggest use two xtals if mixing - use divider with cer-res [to divide drift]. Beacon on 501.5 now - will lsn 502 shortly on off-chance - static low here, at present. Rog. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Ibbetson To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 6:21 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re; 502.4kcs 10am, XIZ/XAQ/PDN/KEV... Ah, but nobody said it was supposed to be easy :-) Chris is always 300Hz HF of me. I think he has a DC transceiver, possibly without TX offset. Dunno whether Ray is rock bound or not. I suspect he is. I couldn't hear him this morning at all but Chris/XIZ copied him OK. I'm hoping moving the loading coil towards the tower and reducing its size will reduce losses, stabilise the resonat frequency, and perhaps improve receive a tad. I'll try to hear you tomorrow at 6am, but if it keeps raining there is little chance because my aerial shifts resonance down to 495KHz in the rain! I'm thinking of building a transceiver for 500K so I can net on other stations and to free up my FT1000MP Mk5 for HF again. Rapid has xtals and ceramic resonators that appear suitable. For example, xtals on 4.194 MHz and resonators on 3.69 (504KHz nominal difference). Another possible pairing is 4.096 and 3.58 (516 difference). Both will need the ceramic resonator pushed up a few KHz with a variable cap in series with the nominal 20pF load, but I'm assuming that is not a big deal. The crystals are only 20p each so filters should be inexpensive even if I need a bucket load to get a set within 10% of the target IF bandwidth. CUL, Alan In message <003201c7a07b$39685970$2fc8e150@o>, Gw3UEP writes >Alan/XAQ, >FB - that's what I thought, 502cc - Chris didn't net on to you - then Ray >came up on 501.6 - gets complicated! >Rog. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Alan Ibbetson >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 2:41 PM >Subject: Re: LF: Re; 502.4kcs 10am, XIZ/XAQ/PDN/KEV... > >In message <000801c7a04b$32303540$b533f7c2@o>, Gw3UEP > writes >>No sign of Alan/XAQ - not certain of his freq, 502.00 or co-ch - ckd both. > >Rog, > >I'm crystal controlled on 502.0 KHz. If the weather improved during the >coming week I'll be doing some aerial work which may help sigs. I need >something to help reception here because I don't seem to hear as well as >others. -- Cheers, Alan G3XAQ alan@g3xaq.demon.co.uk --------------------------------- What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. --0-1961269190-1180301527=:49664 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My apologies . .
I have both vfo and xtal control (502.3 and 503.3) and can zero beat with my RIT.
I sometimes forget to switch from XO to VFO - :-(
In future I shall net on to the station I am calling to avoid difficulties.
73 Chris G3XIZ

Gw3UEP <gw3uep@uklinux.net> wrote:
Alan,
Thanks for all info.  Ray has  502.6 & 501.6 cc.
Suggest use two xtals if mixing - use divider with cer-res [to divide drift].
Beacon on 501.5 now - will lsn 502 shortly on off-chance - static low here, at present.
Rog.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re; 502.4kcs 10am, XIZ/XAQ/PDN/KEV...

Ah, but nobody said it was supposed to be easy :-)

Chris is always 300Hz HF of me. I think he has a DC transceiver,
possibly without TX offset.

Dunno whether Ray is rock bound or not. I suspect he is. I couldn't hear
him this morning at all but Chris/XIZ copied him OK. I'm hoping moving
the loading coil towards the tower and reducing its size will reduce
losses, stabilise the resonat frequency, and perhaps improve receive a
tad.

I'll try to hear you tomorrow at 6am, but if it keeps raining there is
little chance because my aerial shifts resonance down to 495KHz in the
rain!

I'm thinking of building a transceiver for 500K so I can net on other
stations and to free up my FT1000MP Mk5 for HF again. Rapid has xtals
and ceramic resonators that appear suitable. For example, xtals on 4.194
MHz and resonators on 3.69 (504KHz nominal difference). Another possible
pairing is 4.096 and 3.58 (516 difference). Both will need the ceramic
resonator pushed up a few KHz with a variable cap in series with the
nominal 20pF load, but I'm assuming that is not a big deal. The crystals
are only 20p each so filters should be inexpensive even if I need a
bucket load to get a set within 10% of the target IF bandwidth.

CUL,

Alan

In message <003201c7a07b$39685970$2fc8e150@o>, Gw3UEP
<gw3uep@uklinux.net> writes
>Alan/XAQ,
>FB - that's what I thought, 502cc - Chris didn't net on to you - then Ray
>came up on 501.6 - gets complicated!
>Rog.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Alan Ibbetson
>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 2:41 PM
>Subject: Re: LF: Re; 502.4kcs 10am, XIZ/XAQ/PDN/KEV...
>
>In message <000801c7a04b$32303540$b533f7c2@o>, Gw3UEP
><gw3uep@uklinux.net> writes
>>No sign of Alan/XAQ - not certain of his freq, 502.00 or co-ch - ckd both.
>
>Rog,
>
>I'm crystal controlled on 502.0 KHz. If the weather improved during the
>coming week I'll be doing some aerial work which may help sigs. I need
>something to help reception here because I don't seem to hear as well as
>others.

--

Cheers,

Alan G3XAQ
alan@g3xaq.demon.co.uk


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