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Still same s/n from >> 18:44 500 DK8KW Op4 -29 dB [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.42 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 4007433f91838c822ced221546b88d5a Subject: Re: LF: MF:477 via Delft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0138_01CD4BFA.865C1020" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_RED, HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:451581888:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4054fdcd7d825ce X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0138_01CD4BFA.865C1020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FB, Stef, Will tune to 477k now ,only a few hours of day light , signals = should start to show qsb soon as the skip starts , will leave = the Rx on 477 to may be 2300 gmt 2400 local time .. Still same s/n from >> 18:44 500 DK8KW Op4 -29 dB GL . G..=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 7:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: MF:477 via Delft OK. Give me some time, i will consider... Still no signal in Delft. Seems they use a band filter centered arround = 505 kHz. Maybe i'm some dB down there... 73, Stefan Am 16.06.2012 20:04, schrieb Graham:=20 OK Stefan, well all you need is to send carrier on ( 477KHz + 1700 = Hz) =3D 478.700 KHz , use Opera set to 500KHz OP4 mode Tx = and after 4 mins , you will have a s/n report from all tuned to = 477 KHz : ) 17:53 500 DK8KW Op4 -29 dB =20 G.. From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:51 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: MF:477 via Delft Well, these are my very first tests. The PA has a CW key input now, = works excellent. I think i will start with some carriers and a bit CW. Last night i've finished to build my MF RX and a active antenna. First = tests look promising but i still haven't heared or seen amateur signals. = It's slowly starting here now. I've just sent a carrier on 478 kHz but saw/heared nothing in Delft... = I still have no idea about MF propagation... Exciting! :-) 73, Stefan Am 16.06.2012 18:21, schrieb Graham:=20 Ok Stefan ,=20 What mode are sending ? opera ? If so then I will set the = RX to 477 as well , Im sure some signal will leak directly = into io83lk hihi 73 -G..=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 5:09 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: MF:477 via Delft Thank you Graham, eh i mean G..,=20 Most useful link! I forgot about it. Maybe its worth to ask the OM = to extend the range... Expect to hear my signal there in an hour or so. 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 16.06.2012 18:02, schrieb Graham:=20 Something just noticed , 477 is inside the Delft-web-sdr range = .... ! Monitoring 500K off air and 477 via Delft can run x2 sdr and monitor 500/477 , but with x 2 noise = .should work ?=20 G..=20 http://websdr.pa3weg.nl/ ------=_NextPart_000_0138_01CD4BFA.865C1020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
FB, Stef,
 
Will  tune to 477k   now ,only  a  = few  hours=20 of  day light  , signals should  start to =  show =20 qsb  soon  as the  skip  starts , will  leave = the =20 Rx on  477  to  may be  2300 = gmt    =20 2400 local  time ..
 
Still  =20 same  s/n  from  >> 18:44 500 DK8KW Op4 -29=20 dB
 
GL . G..
 

From: Stefan = Sch=E4fer
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 7:26 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: MF:477 via Delft

OK. Give me some time, i will consider...
Still no = signal in=20 Delft. Seems they use a band filter centered arround 505 kHz. Maybe i'm = some dB=20 down there...

73, Stefan

Am 16.06.2012 20:04, schrieb = Graham:=20
OK  Stefan,
 
well   all  you  need  is to   = send  carrier  on   ( 477KHz  + 1700 = Hz)  =3D=20    478.700 KHz  , use  Opera  set to  = 500KHz=20   OP4  mode Tx   and  after  4 mins ,  = you=20 will  have  a  s/n report  from  all  = tuned=20 to  477 KHz  : )
 

17:53 500 DK8KW=20 Op4 -29 dB  

 
G..
 

From: Stefan Sch=E4fer
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:51 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: MF:477 via Delft

Well, these are my very first tests. The PA has a CW = key input=20 now, works excellent. I think i will start with some carriers and a = bit=20 CW.
Last night i've finished to build my MF RX and a active = antenna. First=20 tests look promising but i still haven't heared or seen amateur = signals. It's=20 slowly starting here now.
I've just sent a carrier on 478 kHz but=20 saw/heared nothing in Delft... I still have no idea about MF=20 propagation...
Exciting! :-)

73, Stefan

Am 16.06.2012 = 18:21,=20 schrieb Graham:=20
Ok Stefan ,
 
What mode  are  sending  ? opera ?  = If =20 so  then   I will   set the  RX = to =20 477  as  well  , Im sure  some  = signal =20 will  leak   directly into  io83lk  = hihi
 
73 -G..

Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 5:09 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: MF:477 via Delft

Thank you Graham, eh i mean G..,

Most useful = link! I=20 forgot about it. Maybe its worth to ask the OM to extend the=20 range...

Expect to hear my signal there in an hour or = so.

73,=20 Stefan/DK7FC

Am 16.06.2012 18:02, schrieb Graham:=20
Something just  noticed , 477 is  inside the =20 Delft-web-sdr range .... !
 
Monitoring   500K  off  air  = and =20 477  via  Delft
 
can  run x2 sdr  and  monitor  = 500/477  ,=20 but  with  x 2 noise .should  work  ?
 
G.. 
 
 
http://websdr.pa3weg.nl/
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