Return-Path: Received: from mtain-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.13]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINDF083-5f004baf6746125; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:27:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id DFA94380000A8; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:27:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NvtQm-00023a-96 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:25:36 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NvtQl-00023R-Rk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:25:35 +0100 Received: from web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NvtQl-00082H-MN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:25:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 73906 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Mar 2010 14:25:29 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1269786329; bh=p12dEZ5MuBkScShHkunKOIoA77k+PIsW9scwbiUKc4s=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ld9LB/AmMoA5+F7e6u/C20WxgQYDKHKHceGHA968IDUbm+EPmIuMxDPMIdDekWkyhnR+lAKkNop1bCYUK08rUYq+rNm3kMknUuYw8wCy7MTUiVHC/fP+Ock7eL5bhayauYYi7lgLXYePRlEVRDxZebn8WrqcAcVPObtTbWSntgE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UOb4koO/x8dG7hfpbrxRmMXqAWDBj06SzvmbmRAqCbDWswfhVfW451SjU8BRqqk1NtXs9ROYukfTsZ4tajCpt4MXmJe+ysGcQbT/v+t9Mxjso97u8WpXbOVfPOtzR0isgYeOBQ5Z4JeAEymGFQK2X2hIAFuzkWJIknmaF12EKmo=; Message-ID: <319404.73821.qm@web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: O2IbrTgVM1mrhyUbMUxNRFcTcjBV2P2CUAxNbD7QGCV1wuW _MjoGZUzTmBXRVxoQbBQJyA2Ydpdx0n8jaAAGIWFMi5d4mKjXuoLFc_aEPio SDSDDyrtEXiJHuR39IqrrB1XuztTUcICyzVWxgpN0XSFXzj_kEIO.NmVd_Mw bWw5M0V1f0.619ESUln.mg8H0DI1IKXOco.ZpYDnO2JzQ6iVUzMV4P0MpZAi zDUe.O9ch_pOIDfP451PpcP60FQMu6dOK4KdlnIqK4eiArFGbUrP1Ej2JB1G hmS2fuzcr.ZHfiLnd0q5OVWHh Received: from [86.137.246.192] by web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 07:25:28 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 07:25:28 -0700 (PDT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Antenna Matching Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1140121700-1269786328=:73821" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d249.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600d4baf67444c68 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --0-1140121700-1269786328=:73821 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tim =A0 Try an air cored=A0transformer (no unobtainium) about 100mm diameter about= 60 turns of 1mm diameter wire. Using a shorting tap from the antenna end= down the coil. Use about 1 to 2 turn loop at the earthy end for your 50oh= m TX. The earthy end of the coil should be connected to a good earth syste= m. This should give a coil about 300yH with a Q of about 400. You don't need= a capacitor just tap carefully down the coil. Remember you will have abou= t 2 kV floating about and 1.5 amps in the up lead with a watt and a bit=A0= radiated for a 100 watt TX. =A0 My antenna is up 13m and I use the above arrangement. =A0 73 es GL petefmt --- On Sun, 28/3/10, tim hague wrote: From: tim hague Subject: LF: Antenna Matching To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sunday, 28 March, 2010, 11:10 I'm just about to apply for my 500kHz NoV, I've got around 100W of Tx powe= r available and I'm looking for some information on antenna matching, my= Tx antenna is just going to be a 132ft Marconi T with a 50ft vertical sec= tion, can I get away with just a series tuned matching cct or are the volt= ages across my matching C going to be very high, I have a wide spaced C ap= prox 200 to 700pF. Thanks=A0 Tim M0AFJ =20 --0-1140121700-1269786328=:73821 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Tim
 
Try an air cored transformer (no unobtainium) about 100mm diamet= er about 60 turns of 1mm diameter wire. Using a shorting tap from the ante= nna end down the coil. Use about 1 to 2 turn loop at the earthy end for yo= ur 50ohm TX. The earthy end of the coil should be connected to a good eart= h system.
This should give a coil about 300yH with a Q of about 400. You don't= need a capacitor just tap carefully down the coil. Remember you will have= about 2 kV floating about and 1.5 amps in the up lead with= a watt and a bit radiated for a 100 watt TX.
 
My antenna is up 13m and I use the above arrangement.
 
73 es GL petefmt

--- On Sun, 28/3/10, tim hagu= e <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

From: tim hague <m0afj@dsl.pipex.com>Subject: LF: Antenna Matching
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date= : Sunday, 28 March, 2010, 11:10

I'm just about to apply for my 500kHz NoV, I've got= around 100W of Tx power available and I'm looking for some information on= antenna matching, my Tx antenna is just going to be a 132ft Marconi T wit= h a 50ft vertical section, can I get away with just a series tuned matchin= g cct or are the voltages across my matching C going to be very high, I ha= ve a wide spaced C approx 200 to 700pF.

Thanks  Tim M0AFJ
<= BR>

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