Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t6LCqT3Z006044 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:52:29 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ZHWyU-0000kY-DB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:48:46 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ZHWyT-0000kP-Ux for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:48:45 +0100 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHWxP-0003xz-SO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:48:44 +0100 Received: from Clemens0811 ([79.237.131.65]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MQu9K-1ZMV0o0yQo-00UJNE for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:47:28 +0200 From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <14333894.20150720161829@chriswilson.tv> <776311A518F6F642962EC561A9184090D70A6C8546@THSONEP02CMB01P.one-02-priv.grp> In-Reply-To: <776311A518F6F642962EC561A9184090D70A6C8546@THSONEP02CMB01P.one-02-priv.grp> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:47:26 +0200 Message-ID: <30535ED00C1845BBAF70128484243EA6@Clemens0811> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609 Thread-Index: AdDDAGg4dt2/uIaAQ1y/aTqWdMhvUwAhIa/AAAspF1A= X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:IT6b++fbE14bp0YPR1V9ao3ck7Q0MJShDqnJ1HLXssxjWDEcIcD NsDdREwOufW7cazwMPlDyK3NjtvYFGxxrOCnpq1mtY8nKDyfljHqUNlPSynjxycP06RKQbu nlzmNCOTHkOUHQzA4mfsUIneGcVg49o+wo9Es8GXzbJLekulsEST9HWIyGgNW1l5onlgoJz mNEvGs9Z42Oz5jCok2gXg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:uVtqBkJgGkc=:E40JPX55nMXWrtgPvgNroH pgtYgkzYzeD5bx6xbCNIveyCzyK/M8rlPWbkJvuV7QAKAGiLmOSFUL2YUrFdUV/S3elB/dKNQ jgGy/jfnZCMo4v2BMj6pq8LNPphE8GDdq4HgtdDfdm8NHWr8Z4qf3eeb6lSIKGgpzUY2iCDDa eNaUuUb52qp9Opp+bnFRUrv6uKmbwV7Mq0DFLZ5WlwtFS7eELijhJi3woUtCVfUxVbtRQaf2V QepFUPZU3vkFwpy+vOay9bJxNIULZC1VjoZxSDHIe5Nl2a6NMJnGcpKlJaUfT3X5faYA77Lhf kRxrMSIEgeFpuApWtNUpMcqldUUFx6nJu6C3qq3yIk0GJA45ryOzfF6tt4sy2X/+n+XsGurI6 wGR9EjJza8WmSn8Dni5I7JOD8YHQLXExAE3DL1Fstke1aK/ZoT2Ae6BqXapnccPLDby0jfXmE VEoOtZadc/z4mO4ahTtIThXfhP8Y2QgkGCoZViy+KS3rW99Jjhbo9F9FMGPA89X2mM/A5r6mE Zqxhurk4bN+a0OVFETknnO850zRAJclcOFaQNVzhuLMj4sg1OwQNTm0RvYhJtcpmt6WMdKsMO J6xq/2Khnk6TdzW7Ea8MCYSfT6GsLyTclLOZR2PumS/HV5wLs783En4MtIccCvcbu9kP7U1tb AfjQm+q8cBZOb8l22SusF2riD+aAX7qLIEZVtPbA6+9kKySHtvSOhObZ/ecmmTzmcDFQ= X-Scan-Signature: 7ab87d4d3ea1d9dcb73a78e83fe4d608 Subject: LF: RE: RE: Power monitoring at LF? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3678 >There are some that go down to 200kHz but these are for the >'high sensitivity' 4410 range (just looks like a 43) which >implies they might need a bit of power ...... borne out by >the power range going to 10kW :) Indeed there is one element from 0.2-0.535 MHz (power range from 10W to 10kW full scale) but only for the 4410 Model.One element covers 7 power ranges. The elements fo the Bird 4410 Model are not compatible with the 43 Model,however. The 4410 Wattmeter is quite rare to find and much more expensive than the much more common 43 Model. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of REEVES Paul >Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 9:21 AM >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: LF: RE: Power monitoring at LF? > >There are some that go down to 200kHz but these are for the >'high sensitivity' 4410 range (just looks like a 43) which >implies they might need a bit of power ...... borne out by >the power range going to 10kW :) > >73s > >Paul G8GJA > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Wilson >Sent: 20 July 2015 16:18 >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: LF: Power monitoring at LF? > >20 July 2015 > > >Do any Bird elements give meaningful readings down at >136kHz? If not are there any commercial alternatives to >building something? Thanks. > > > >-- > > >Best regards, > Chris mailto:chris@chriswilson.tv > > >