Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:49:41 +0100 Received: by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEpcq-000854-G8 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:49:41 +0100 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore04.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EEpcq-00080y-BP for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:49:40 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EEpcQ-0005Mx-NE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:49:14 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EEpcQ-0005Mo-7i for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:49:14 +0100 Received: from mail.nrtco.net ([216.168.96.52]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EEqGs-00005k-Mc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:31:06 +0100 Received: from nocturna-y1zrar (nrtcorback-216-168-120-44.nrtco.net [216.168.120.44]) by mail.nrtco.net (8.12.10/8.12.1) with SMTP id j8CErQVV013579 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:53:27 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050912104903.00a46b20@magma.ca> X-Sender: ve2iq@magma.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:49:03 -0400 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Bill de Carle In-Reply-To: <000401c5b7a1$56b3f8a0$0a8cf8d4@standalone> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Request for information. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit At 02:52 PM 9/12/2005 +0100, Andy wrote: >John - [..] >I'm surprised that you say the improvement with Africam was not that >significant. Surely, the biggest problem with any coherent scheme like PSK >is maintaining symbol timing and carrier lock. Certainly the timing can be >determined exactly, on a continuous basis, and most of the coherency issue >is resolvable too, so surely now that all the non-linear processing elements >of PSK reception have gone away shouldn't the net gain be potentially >massive ? AFRICAM uses the GPS info for bit timing and framing, it does not attempt to synthesize a coherent carrier. I keep hearing how difficult it is to get some of those DDS-based BPSK generators out there to switch coherently, at least without some modification. If anyone wants to transmit coherent BPSK I'll look into the receive side this winter. Bill