Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28445 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2002 22:09:09 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by exhibition.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2002 22:09:09 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 14575 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2002 21:09:07 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2002 21:09:07 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16fTr6-0003SM-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:44:24 +0000 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au ([203.10.110.76]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16fTr4-0003SH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:44:22 +0000 Received: from fred1 (dialup-t1-185.Hobart.netspace.net.au [210.15.194.185]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id g1PL6Fh95212 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:06:17 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20020226080539.00a6e670@pop.netspace.net.au> X-Sender: vk7ro@pop.netspace.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:05:39 +1100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Richard Rogers" Subject: RE: LF: Spelling of units In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20020225164111.00a837c0@gemini.herts.ac.uk> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020225161512.009ed5c0@POP3.freeler.nl> <20020225105439.1D8961E456@xprdmailfe.excite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: I recall that the now defunct magazine "Electronics Australia" started to delete the space between the figure and the unit to avoid problems with their new-fangled computerised typesetting system which would sometime leave the 5 on the end of one line and put the V at the beginning of the next. There appears to be an example of this problem in the message below. At 05:18 PM 2/25/02 +0000, you wrote: >Dear LF Group, > >A lot of the variations on symbols for units seem to be due to computers; >for instance, most CAD and simulation software can't do Greek letters and >is not case-sensitive. The Pspice simulator that I use at work a lot >interprets a resistor of either 1m or 1M as 1 milliohm - you have to put >1meg if you want a 1 megohm resistor. Confusingly, while 4.7k gives what >you would expect, it will interpret 4k7 as 4 kilohms, and ignore the 7. >Fortunately, 'u' is not used in many units, so uF has fairly obvious >meaning. Also, the word processor I use puts nasty red lines underneath 1 >mA, but seems to approve of 1mA - perhaps it is American influence at >work! I think the use of * to indicate multiplication stems from many >types of computer languages which use this notation to avoid the ambiguity >possible if 'x' or '.' were used instead in a text-only display. > >The standards bodies seem to have been determined that we should use the >new logic symbols for a couple of decades now - engineers around the world >seem equally determined not to use them! The resistor symbol is a bone of >contention too, with many still preferring the zig-zag line over the >rectangular box. > >Some old American books seem to use 'M' for ohms - so there are lots of >50,000M resistors marked on circuit diagrams, which looks a bit strange... > >Cheers, Jim Moritz >73 de M0BMU > > > 73, Ric, VK7RO