Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29012 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 14:30:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 14:30:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 3929 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 14:34:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 14:34:20 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14NyB7-0004gf-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:24:09 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from kauha.saunalahti.fi ([195.197.53.227]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14NyB3-0004ga-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:24:05 +0000 Received: from default (MDCCCLXXXII.hdyn.saunalahti.fi [195.197.42.82]) by kauha.saunalahti.fi (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f0VEOMC25236 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:24:22 +0200 (EET) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010131162350.0082a100@pop.saunalahti.fi> X-Sender: vaiski1@pop.saunalahti.fi X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:23:50 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?V=E4in=F6_Lehtoranta?= Subject: Re: LF: CW etc In-reply-to: References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010131074711.00a3d680@mail.pncl.co.uk> <5.0.2.1.2.20010131074711.00a3d680@mail.pncl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hello all, Look for example "MIL-STD-188-140A" Appendix A ............ 20.2.1 Interrupted continuous wave (ICW) ICW or on-off keying (usually associated with international Morse Code) can be used with VLF and LF systems, but is presently used only as a back-up. In the case of fixed shore base installations, ICW data rates are severely limited by the time constant of the antenna circuit......etc 20.2.2. Continuous wave frequency shift keying (CWFSK) ----------------- 73 de Vaino At 11:48 31.1.2001 +0000, you wrote: >In message <5.0.2.1.2.20010131074711.00a3d680@mail.pncl.co.uk>, Walter >Blanchard writes >>For some reason this didn't seem to make it onto the reflector first time >>round so here goes again: >> >snip > >>"CW" - "continuous wave" - means just that; a steady unbroken unmodulated >>carrier wave; "N0N" (or "A0" in old money). Morse code is mainly sent by >>interrupting the carrier so how can it possibly be "CW"? > >The old spark transmitters, produced damped wavetrains which carried >their own modulation (rough). When the arc system was produced which >gave a continuous waveform these were designated 'CW'. They required a >beat oscillator to hear them and even though they were interrupted by >the keying the nomenclature stuck. > >Mike >> Only amateurs >>consider "Morse" and "CW" to be synonymous which is a pity because it >>clouds our thinking. > >Commercial and armed forces transmitters have the Morse position >labelled 'CW' on the switch. > >Mike >-- >M.J.Powell > > |---------------------------------------------------------| | V.K.Lehtoranta, OH2LX ¤ 60N33.6 024E58.7 KP20LN74 | | P.O.Box 50 ¤ Telephone: +358-9-4173965 | | FIN-05401, Jokela ¤ Telefax: +358-9-4173961 | | Finland ¤ email: vaiski@dlc.fi | |---------------------------------------------------------|