Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27159 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2000 10:13:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by redlabel.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 24 Mar 2000 10:13:34 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12YQyy-0001gc-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:06:20 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from mail.sci.fi ([195.74.0.41] helo=pyyhe.saunalahti.fi ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12YQyw-0001gX-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:06:19 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from default (MMDCCXXXVII.hdyn.saunalahti.fi [195.197.45.37]) by pyyhe.saunalahti.fi (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA23059 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 12:17:41 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000324120607.008172f0@pop.saunalahti.fi> X-Sender: oh2lx@pop.saunalahti.fi (Unverified) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 12:06:07 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?V=E4in=F6_Lehtoranta?= Subject: LF: GW F-s versus Wx parametres MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Working on the material left by ex YLE Meas station... Does anyone know the email address of C. Gordon Van Aruan whose article "Influence of Atmospheric Humidity on Low-Frequency Radio Ground Waves" is on the pages 2.5-2.7 of "the LF Experimenters's Source Book", 2nd Edition. Let me refer to another article in Proc IRE, April 1948, "Temperature Variations of Ground-Wave Signal Intensity at Standard Broadcast Frequencies" by Frederick R Gracely: ---------- "Ground-Wave signal intensities at standard broadcast frequencies exhibit considerable variation, even over short paths. ... The practical result of such variations, regardless of the physical explanations ultimately involved, is equivalent to changes in the EFFECTIVE CONDUCTIVITY OF THE PATH. Therefore, in cases where the consideration of close margins in conductivity measurements is necessary, the variations produced by changing conditions over the path may become exceedingly important. ... Careful comparisons of signal intensities with many sets of data on temperature, precipitation, humidity, atmospheric pressure, dew point, and vapor pressure showed clearly that there was closer and more continuous correlation with TEMPERATURE than any other single type of data." ----------- As we have been making these GW F-s measurements for more than 50 years, would like to ask whether other persons on this reflector have professional type of experience with these F-s variations? 73 de Vaino, OH2LX ---------------------------------------------------------- V.K.Lehtoranta, OH2LX, POBox 50, FIN-05401 Jokela, Finland ------ Tel: +358-9-4173965 ---- Fax: +358-9-4173961 ------ E-mail: vaiski@dlc.fi - alias: oh2lx@dlc.fi & oh2lx@sral.fi