Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1401 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2000 18:20:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by grants.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 16 Feb 2000 18:20:59 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12L8m9-0008Kb-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:02:09 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from ds9.sci.fi ([195.74.0.54]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12L8m5-0008KW-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:02:06 +0000 Received: from default (MLXXXIX.rdyn.saunalahti.fi [195.197.136.189]) by ds9.sci.fi (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA15391 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 20:01:54 +0200 (EET) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000216200202.008642e0@laatikko.saunalahti.fi> X-Sender: oh2lx@laatikko.saunalahti.fi (Unverified) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 20:02:02 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?V=E4in=F6_Lehtoranta?= Subject: Re: LF: Re SIDs and Transatlantic In-reply-to: <000201bf7872$bb1e6740$e491883e@lvm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi LF folks, SID effects are mainly caused by solar EM radiation and D region effects by hard X-rays. So they travel with about the same speed than visible light does. SID's are labelled according to observation method involved. SWF's are observed on low HF measurements. Of those SID's of interest to LF community SPA (Sudden Phase Anomaly) is normally obscure for us. SES (Sudden Enhancement of Signal) is known to VLF people but can be detected on LF quite often. A good part of LF group consists of veterans, so most of you know all this better than I know... I need some advice, please: Have been trying to record LF signal levels with ESH2 DC rec output connected to Pica ADC on LPT1. Funny things happen: - Using Pica DOS software results of abt 20 dB less (extra) noise level than Pica Windows software. Don't remember any explanations for that... Sort of analogous to using Gram (Windows) or Specgram (DOS) on audio scanning via SB. Can only use Specgram on freqs lower than 500 kHz. The ESH2 -> LPT1 cable is too long (3 m) and is a normal thin 50 ohm coax. Any advice how to cut at least some of the noise? Any optical isolators for DC? 73 de Vaino, OH2LX ----- LAWRENCE MAYHEAD wrote: --------------------------------------------------------- Extract from Daily Telegraph today:- "A recent Sun flare that has caused a radio blackout has prompted scientists to warn that the Earth will be most at risk from the effects of space weather later this year.....Just after the latest flare the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory recorded the dramatic ejection of material......The Flare on February 5,caused a radio blackout for about an hour.In extreme cases,such storms can induce currents in the Earth and oceans that can interfere with or even damage power transmission equipment.Solar forcaster Essi Ellis said that disruptions will become more common as the solar cycle picks up with a peak expected in mid-2000". So can we assume that the exceptional conditions reported by Larry Kaiser were related to this Flare on 5 feb.if so there is a delay of one week between the event and the change in propagation! is this unique or has it been observed before?Usually SIDs appear to be associated with increased D layer absorbtion and consequent radio blackouts.Perhaps there is another mechanism in the recovery of the ionosphere from such an event which results in the dramatic improvement in propagation noted by Larry.There must be something about all this in the literature?and it would certainly help to know how long after a flare some changes can be expected.At any rate from the forecasts our best chances are yet to come in mid -2000,so keep up the good work,Larry and all. 73s Laurie. . ---------------------------------------------------------- V.K.Lehtoranta, OH2LX, POBox 50, FIN-05401 Jokela, Finland ------ Tel: +358-9-4173965 ---- Fax: +358-9-4173961 ------ E-mail: vaiski@dlc.fi - alias: oh2lx@dlc.fi & oh2lx@sral.fi