Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10594 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2002 09:27:28 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2002 09:27:28 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 2372 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2002 09:27:28 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2002 09:27:28 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16l6QC-0008Um-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:55:52 +0000 Received: from mail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.50]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16l6QB-0008UX-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:55:51 +0000 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.12.1/8.12.1) with SMTP id g2D9HI7b036140 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:17:18 +0100 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20020313101249.37f71b4e@pb623250.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: pb623250@pb623250.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:12:49 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: loop/update In-reply-to: <3C8E3629.6A23AB12@netscapeonline.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: >Inductance measured = 173 uH >Resonant F measured = 3065 khz >DC resistance of loop wire plus coax feed 1.5 ohms. >Loop wire 2.5 mm insulated. >Feed 75 ohm coax, about 150 ft long, loop feed point, bottom right hand >corner. Hi Mal, I don't know if you measured the loop-inductance with or without the coax. But in case you measured with the 75 Ohm coax you'll have to take the coax capacity (typical 67pF/m) into account, unless you matched the loop (R = few Ohm or less) to the 75 Ohm of the cable. If the coax length is short compared to the wavelength (for sure it is at 136kHz) and you have a sufficient mismatch (that's the case if you connect the cable direct to the loop, at 136kHz) then the coax will mainly act as a parallel capacitance. 150 ft (45 m) of 75 Ohm coax represents 3 nF that is in parallel with the loop inductance. You probably have to take that into account when matching the loop. 73, Rik ON7YD PS : Nice to see that some good old thumbrules still work, one of these say that you need +/- 1 wavelength of wire to get a loop resonant. Your loop is 124 x 40 ft, so in total 328 ft (99 m) of wire. Fits very well with a resonance just over 3MHz.