Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17737 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2002 10:55:17 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jan 2002 10:55:17 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 21979 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2002 10:55:19 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jan 2002 10:55:19 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16VsHC-0004ta-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 10:47:38 +0000 Received: from mail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.50]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16VsHA-0004tJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 10:47:38 +0000 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.12.1/8.12.1) with SMTP id g0UAkEOH114948 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 11:46:14 +0100 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20020130114238.31479a9a@pb623250.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: pb623250@pb623250.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 11:42:38 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: Tesla Coil as an antenna In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20020129153852.00b06cd8@gemini.herts.ac.uk> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: >At 09:14 29/01/2002 -0500, you wrote: >>Hello, >> I have not experimented in a while with my partially built tesla coil, but >>has anyone used their Tesla coil as an antenna for ELF or other Freqs? If we >>try to use it for 137 KHz how do you determine ERP? >Dear Tom, LF group, > >Well, occasionally I have inadvertently used my LF antenna as a Tesla coil >:-) But seriously, The Tesla coil is essentially a helical antenna (see >ON7YD's LF antenna web pages http://www.qsl.net/on7yd/136ant.htm ). So if >it is several metres tall, and you can persuade it to resonate on 136kHz, >it might make a usable LFantenna. Of course, you would want to avoid the >discharges that occur in the normal Tesla coil mode of operation, since >these generate QRM and absorb lots of RF power. A Tesla coil and helical antenna have in common that they have a 'distributed' inductance, ie. the inductance is not located at a single point as with a traditional short vertical monopole but distributed all over the antenna. When trying to model the helical antenna I assumed that it was a tall and slim structure, where the distributed inductance does not create any significant magnetic field but only improves the current distribution (and thus radiation resistance) of the antenna. So even though it look like a coil it is an 'electrical' antenna. I assume that a typical tesla coil is a rather short and fat structure. I am not sure that in this case the magnetic field can be ignored, compared to the electric field. And since a Tesla coil has rather small dimensions - compared to other LF transmitting antennas - I'm afraid that it will have a very low efficiency. BUT ... since you have the Tesla coil available I would certainly recommend to do some tests (that's what all the fun is about). 73, Rik ON7YD