Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8919 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2002 13:13:32 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by exhibition.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Jan 2002 13:13:32 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 24305 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2002 13:13:06 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Jan 2002 13:13:06 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16SeCo-0002vX-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 13:09:46 +0000 Received: from mail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.50]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16SeCn-0002vS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 13:09:45 +0000 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.12.1/8.12.1) with SMTP id g0LD8QIU060486 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 14:08:26 +0100 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20020121140458.309f44e0@pb623250.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: pb623250@pb623250.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 14:04:58 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: Re: Questions about Jason. In-reply-to: <3C4AF58E.1DBA778B@usa.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: >Rik ON7YD is much expert than me in QRSS speed calculations, but let's try : >suppose I want to send CQ DE I2PHD >Unless my computation is wrong, that amounts to a total of 106 dot lengths, >so the time needed is the following : >QRSS3 106 x 3 = 318 seconds, i.e. 5 minutes, 18 seconds >QRSS10 106 x 10 = 1060 seconds, i.e. 17 minutes, 40 seconds >QRSS60 106 x 60 = 6360 seconds, i.e. 1 hour, 46 minutes >Jason 12 characters / 2.5 = 4 minutes, 48 seconds > >I leave to Rik the computation for DFCW... In DFCW it would be a length of 40 dots so : DFCW3 = 2 min 0 sec DFCW10 = 6 min 40 sec DFCW60 = 40 min If we simplify a bit and assume that SNR is only determined by the dotlength we would have to compare Jason with QRSS12 or DFCW12 : QRSS12 = 21 min 12 sec DFCW12 = 8 min 0 sec Jason = 4 min 24 sec (I count only 11 characters) The other way arround, if we want to transmit the text at the same speed as Jason we would need to use QRSS at 2.5 sec/dot or DFCW at 6.6 sec/dot. This would make QRSS about 6.8dB and DFCW about 2.6dB inferior to Jason. In the real world the differences will be a bit less since Jason is using a larger bandwidth. 73, Rik ON7YD