Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14301 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2002 11:09:15 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Jan 2002 11:09:15 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 13465 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2002 11:09:17 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Jan 2002 11:09:17 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16QRFH-0002qF-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:55:11 +0000 Received: from mail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.50]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16QRFG-0002q8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:55:10 +0000 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.12.1/8.12.1) with SMTP id g0FArpsW082982 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:53:51 +0100 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20020115115030.2b3f4768@pb623250.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: pb623250@pb623250.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:50:30 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: Introducing Jason - and asking for cooperation In-reply-to: <3C4301BD.878E49BF@usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hello Alberto, I just read the Jason documentation. It looks most interesting and promising, although there is some chance that some will call it 'pocks' ... as 7FSK was called 'measles' ;-) For transmitting Jason I was thinking of an alternative path, using a PLL and let Jason control the divider (via LPT of COM port). Least complex would be a 27.2xx MHz PLL in 50Hz steps that is divided by 200, what would give a 136kHz signal in 0.250Hz steps. Since Jason uses 0.252Hz steps the error over 32 steps would be 0.064Hz (or 76% of a bin). As I read from the documentation Jason can handle errors of +/- 1 bin, would the 0.064Hz error be acceptable ? An alternative (and a bit more complex) would be to make a 26.9xxMHz PLL in 50Hz steps and divide it by 198, resulting in a 0.2525252Hz step and reducing the overall error to 0.0168Hz (20% of a bin). Jason would surely have no problem to handle this error, but it would be a bit more complex to read out the exact frequency at 136kHz (due to the odd step). A second alternative would be to use a HF tranceiver (with transverter output) on 13.6MHz and divide the signal by 100. As most modern HF tranceivers can be controlled via the serial port and can be tuned in 10Hz steps (= 0.01Hz on 136kHz) this might be a easy and low cost alternative. 73, Rik ON7YD At 17:05 14/01/02 +0100, you wrote: >Hello group, > > I have devised a novel coding scheme, and have written a new >software to support it. > >I have named it Jason, from the name of the coxswain of the mythological >ship Argo, which was headed to Colchis by the Greek hero Jason. > >The coding scheme of Jason is based on the ideas about IFK that can be found >on the Web site of Steve Olney, VK2ZTO. > >I need your cooperation to test it. I have done some preliminary tests, which >have given very good results, but a true test on the LF hasn't been performed >yet. Instead of cluttering this reflector with the gory technical details of Jason, >I invite you to visit this page : http://www.weaksignals.com/jason > >You can use Jason with a mosfet Class-D Tx, no need for a linear amp. >You can drive the Tx either using a DDS board connected via the parallel port or >the serial port, or up converting an audio signal generated by Jason. > >I tested only the audio interfacing. I need someone who volunteers for testing >the interfacing via the DDS board (I haven't one), with true on-the-air tests. > >Thanks for any cooperation > >73 Alberto I2PHD > > > > >