Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10697 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2001 09:04:02 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Dec 2001 09:04:02 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 24977 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2001 09:04:07 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Dec 2001 09:04:07 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16ERhj-0000au-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:58:59 +0000 Received: from mail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.50]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16ERhf-0000ap-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:58:55 +0000 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.12.1/8.12.1) with SMTP id fBD8vepV103088 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:57:40 +0100 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20011213095456.2d3f78a0@pb623250.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: pb623250@pb623250.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:54:56 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: Chips In-reply-to: <3C17885E.8063C550@netscapeonline.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: At 16:39 12/12/01 +0000, you wrote: >Hello All >There are numerious chips available for dividing frequency but what is >available for multiplying, eg. Hi Mal, Frequency multiplying is a complete different story than frequency dividing. While the last is done digital, multiplying is a non-linear analog thing. If you want to multiply a signal source that doesn't change is frequency (or has only a minimal change) you can do it the classic way (class C amp followed by a resonant circuit on the desired harmonic). If you want to use a 'black box' there are some frequency doublers ,eg. by MiniCircuits, that perform frequency doubling or alternatively you could use any double balanced mixer where you would actually mix the frequency by itself. Using an active DBM - such as MC1496, SO42P, NE612 - will give a pretty good efficiency and surpression of the source frequency. But additional filtering is still recommended (also with the MiniCircuit stuff). Anyway, for you purpose (x8) you would need a chain of 3 doublers and have to handle a lot of unwanted signals. An alternative path might be a PLL, at the frequencies you mention a CMOS4046 should do fine. With a PLL you won't suffer from any 'sub-harmonics' but a proper design is needed to keep phasenoise within acceptable limits. Using a PLL system you wouldn't need more than 2 CMOS IC's, a 4046 PLL and a divide-by-8 IC (many possibilities, 4018, 4020, 4022, 4024, 4029, 4040, 4516, 4520 etc...). 73, Rik ON7YD