Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25079 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2001 08:12:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Aug 2001 08:12:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 11608 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2001 08:12:15 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 16 Aug 2001 08:12:15 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15XI4R-0003qR-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:00:03 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.6]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15XI4M-0003qK-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:59:58 +0100 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id JAA498884 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:59:18 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20010816085833.2dcf9ee4@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:58:33 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: 183 carrier received in ZL In-reply-to: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hello Jim, Based on the coordinates the Saarlouis TX should be in JN39IG and according to the Buckmaster callbook ZL2CA is in RE78JQ. That makes the distance 18630km and direction 51 degrees for the short path and 21370km / 231 degrees for the long path (directions seen from Europe). Assuming the better propagation over the night side of the earth shortpath should occur in the EU evening (= ZL morning) and longpath in EU morning (= ZL evening). The Europe 1 antennas should favour longpath, but Bob's copy (at ZL sunrise) would be shortpath ? 73, Rik ON7YD At 17:36 15/08/01 +0000, you wrote: >Dear LF Group, > >Looking at the Europe 1 web pages suggested by F1TAY, and if >my understanding of the french is correct, the 183kHz signal is >transmitted using a 4 element array beaming south west on a >bearing of 220degrees. This would seem to favour propagation via >a long path to ZL - is this consistent with ZL2CA's reception in the >morning? The ERP of the signal going the other way over the north >pole must be much lower. > >Cheers, Jim Moritz >73 de M0BMU > > > >