Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6804 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2001 08:49:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Jul 2001 08:49:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 3710 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2001 08:48:07 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 12 Jul 2001 08:48:07 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15Kc3E-0004vw-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:42:24 +0100 Received: from mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.6]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15Kc3D-0004vr-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:42:23 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA756236 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:41:40 +0200 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20010712094134.2bdfb116@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:41:34 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: LF/Hyper test In-reply-to: <200107120701.JAA11972@hugo.fen-net.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: At 09:02 12/07/01 +0100, DJ2LF wrote: >Some weeks before Markus DF6NM and me made some tests and found a max. audible >distance of 1500m and a max. visible distance of 2500m (on screen of laptop). >Rec. antenna was 10m vertikal. Hello Walter, congrats on the 9kHz crossband QSO. Did you measure the current you could get into the antenna ? Ground-loss must be extreme at these frequencies. It is interesting to note that the signal seems to be audible up to 1.5km and visible on screen up to 2.5km. If good software (argo, spectogram etc..) was used this would mean that the signal level decreased about 20dB between 1.5 and 2.5km ! Or otherwise it would mean that you would have to increase power from 12W to 1.2kW to get an audible signal at 2.5km. I tried a simulation with GNDWAVE3 and came up with only 4.4dB decrease (but I haven't the slightest idea wether GNDWAVE3 is accurate at 9kHz and 1.5km). Probably the communication on 33km was via some kind of (heavily absorbed) 'induced field'. 73, Rik ON7YD